Quote from: Vega on May 14, 2014, 08:33:35 PM

Quote from: Anotheranonlol on May 14, 2014, 08:02:19 PM

NXT were brought for total of 21 btc between ~73 stakeholders
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You just copied one of your previous posts from an other topic. Any chance that you read a reply by toknormal on the same page? Because it was a very good reply worthy of consideration.

it's a bit offtopic but will address it

his reply was:

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the big flaw in this whole argument about "distribution" is that it's based more on a toy-throwing-out-of-pram premise than any dispassionate appraisal of the "distribution model".

For example. The argument goes that NxT stakeholders stand to make an X0000000 % gain from their investment and that that's somehow "excessive". Whereas if someone buying a currency that had, say 5000 buy-ins and also made an X0000000 % gain - that would be alright.

The fact is that there isn't anywhere near enough market liquidity in any of these currencies for such gains ever to be realised at the amounts of holdings the original stakeholders had. Thats why it doesn't matter if it's 76 or 7600 original holders - it's like melting 2 big blocks of ice or 20 little ones in a jug of water. It dilutes just the same.

If the envisaged potential market for these cryptos is, say 50 million people, then an initial "distribution" of 5000 doesn't look too great either. That's 0.01% of the market getting the initial stake. Thats the real hypocrisy behind these empty criticisms.

Yes, the premise is somewhat 'toy throwing out of pram' because who wouldn't kick themselves at a chance to realise a gain of X0000000 %..?
But more to the point it's a valid concern despite any predujice or hissy fits about missing the boat. How can you support a coin which has enriched such a small group of people in such a disproportionate way when we can create NXT clones giving all the benefits of nxt without the flawed distribution.

Pyramid of 21 initial holders (and god knows how many out of those 21 were single guys owning sock puppets to register multiple stakes) is not a stable foundation for a future currency in any shape or form..it's just absolutely incomprehensible to the point where it seems lunacy it's already survived this long. NXT is a great concept, but the ownership of the total supply was given to such a tiny group of people and from that point forward it's just a trickle down, many I'm sure being self-interested and greedy have manipulated to the best of their abilities distributing their own holdings between multiple accounts and only giving nxt away when it suits them and would boost the value of their pile. the argument is that they'll never realise their gains but they can slowly dump onto markets tiny portions of their holdings and now with things like siastock they can diversify some of their 'unrealisable' nxt ownership into siastock. They're hardly bagholders and could have made considerable amounts of money already. Good for them but I wouldn't support it