Quote from: itsunderstood on May 16, 2014, 02:39:55 PM

Quote from: tertius993 on May 16, 2014, 05:56:32 AM

And how exactly will mining Benjamins change or influence that? I'm sorry to say that Benjamins are probably a long way down the list of crypto-currencies that the political establishment are going to be worried about. If you really want to be rebellious I would have thought putting your effort into something that has a chance of making a difference would be more successful. Realistically that means Bitcoin.

As for words and meanings, just because the words are understood, does not mean that the resulting sentence is meaningful. Here is a simple example:

"I'm going to the butcher to sell a pint of bread."

I expect you understand all the words but what the heck does it mean?

Fair enough, let me explain; You cannot deliver bread in pints, that's a solid and a pint measures liquid.

Also, the butcher doesn't typically take bread, since logically, he is a butcher. So, you are trying to say that I am as confused as your statement. But I am not.

No I wasn't trying to show that - I was trying to show that it is easy for meaning to be lost even when the individual words are understood. And that is particularly true when a word is used to mean something that is not its normally understood meaning.
Trying to use "modality" to mean "will" is certainly not a normal definition in my experience.

Quote from: itsunderstood on May 16, 2014, 02:39:55 PM

Okay so then to your point:

"long way down the list of crypto-currencies that the political establishment are going to be worried about. If you really want to be rebellious I would have thought putting your effort into something that has a chance of making a difference would be more successful. Realistically that means Bitcoin."

Hehe, I see your point. Do you mine and hold BTC?

What relevance is that to the meaning you seem to want to ascribe to Benjamins?

Quote from: itsunderstood on May 16, 2014, 02:39:55 PM

You assume I want to "worry" the political establishment? Haha, no, I couldn't care less what they do, I have ZERO respect for them and I do not vote, and I laugh at the state of the world, run by hundreds of fools who use lawyers as they weaponry. I don't give a damn what these false, unskilled leaders of this world, do. Theirs is a private club, and a doomed one imo.

Well you said, "I see it as an act of political rebellion" - what is the purpose of rebellion if not to worry people?

Quote from: itsunderstood on May 16, 2014, 02:39:55 PM

So yes you make an excellent point, BTC is far more of a threat and a thing to make the politicians "worried" --BUT NOT REALLY because I believe Mark K. is a puppet due to Silk Road, and so your point is what exactly? Do I intend to make Benjamins into BTC?? Do I want Silk Road type business people? Do I want FBI to steal coins of the blockchain? Don't get me wrong tho, I had BTC stolen in my SR wallet like many others. I know the FBI to see themselves as superior to the dumb old dusty unread Constitution. They know they can steal BTC at will, and wreck it.

What is the relevance of Mark Karpeles or Silk Road to the larger question of Bitcoin. He is a bit player (no pun intended), a cameo at best.

Quote from: itsunderstood on May 16, 2014, 02:39:55 PM

However, to continue on your point, no, I don't want Ben to be that. But, any popular money is gonna be used for every black market people can buy. Everything you can name, flows through the BTC pipeline. Babies, drugs, murder, all thingsss. That is the nature of darkness which BTC allows, as do all cryptocoins.

As does cash, and rather more commonly than crypto.

Quote from: itsunderstood on May 16, 2014, 02:39:55 PM

But in this Case, Benjamins is a hobby blockchain, super slow, absurdly difficult, mostly useless at this time. No, it's nothing but a principle. A kite that one or two people are trying to tug the string to get more interest in.

Now, we come to the nub of it. Yes, I can see you are trying to do that - and what I am asking is why? Why do you expend effort here, that, in all probability will be wholly wasted, instead of on BTC or one of the other more promising cryptos?

Quote from: itsunderstood on May 16, 2014, 02:39:55 PM

I explained the concept of "will" to you.

No. No you didn't. You said that you considered modality and will to be the same, but that is hardly "explaining the concept" of will.

Quote from: itsunderstood on May 16, 2014, 02:39:55 PM

So, as I said, I do hold BTC and of course it's a great thing, I expect it to go much higher. So what has Ben got to do with that? I submit to you that I and others in this thread and of course the sock puppet account "AllAboutTheBenjamins" have fielded a blockchain here, honestly and forthrightly, that is the first original 1776 blockchain, to which the ghost of Benjamin Franklin himself has been summoned.

Again, *how* is this the "first original 1776 blockchain"? It's more or less a copy and paste of Bitcoin, it even has the same difficulty adjustment parameters, to its detriment.

Quote from: itsunderstood on May 16, 2014, 02:39:55 PM

I am prepared to discuss all founding documents of history, including but not limited to: The Bible, The Magna Carta, and yes, The United States Constitution. Let me know if you have questions about founding documents, money and markets, and or cryptocoin. Thanks!

Thanks for the offer, but I have raised my questions.

(Oh, and sorry for the delay in replying, can't always find enough time to reply properly.)