Quote from: tertius993 on May 20, 2014, 07:42:19 PM

No I wasn't trying to show that - I was trying to show that it is easy for meaning to be lost even when the individual words are understood. And that is particularly true when a word is used to mean something that is not its normally understood meaning.
Trying to use "modality" to mean "will" is certainly not a normal definition in my experience.

I know, I am being obtuse. It is a way to entertain myself, and this is fully in keeping with the modality of ghosts.

Oh, modality and will don't connect in your brain? Who trained you in willpower? What was his name? Was he a professor or a martial artist? I was raised by martial artists, not professors. I know willpower.

Oh and if my typing is off, I kinda jammed my finger diving into the river. But it was fun I learn a lot about gold from going to the river. Do you ever go to a river? Also, see, getting some pain meds for my finger is a lost cause, due to complete evisceration of medicine in my country. But, it's not too bad, I will just have to baby it. Just a sprain. But willpower, diving into the river each day, or running, lifting weights, it requires you to get into a 'modality' which is a hypnosis term, mostly. If people don't know the mind, they wont understand the word 'mode' or 'modality'. I assume people know. v But, a lot of people are professionally ignorant and I have to work with them to, in great numbers.

Quote from: itsunderstood on May 16, 2014, 02:39:55 PM

Hehe, I see your point. Do you mine and hold BTC?

Quote from: tertius993 on May 20, 2014, 07:42:19 PM

What relevance is that to the meaning you seem to want to ascribe to Benjamins?

In this thread there is an open debate dormant, that says "Mining is a total crap waste of time." ...So I am the counterpoint to that, along with my compatriots who mine Benjamins in the spirit of 1776.

Also, "holding" means buying and holding. I was a stockbroker and am currently a licensed insurance agent; Are you honestly going to ask me the relevance of my question "Do you hold Benjamins?" It matters to the value conversation, you are saying I create value, that's not true, so I ask you your posiiton to see if you are a real person, who puts effort into things. Huh

Are you?

Value I "ascribe" to it? I don't "ascribe" value, the market determines that.

The work done, is the 24/7 act of mining, which is fully roboticized except that you have to have minor tech skills. And my cube is mining and my ant is mining Benjamins for me. Where do I create value? If anything I am a poor dreamer trying to buffer a kite in a lightning storm, to try and catch lightning.

Quote from: tertius993 on May 20, 2014, 07:42:19 PM

Well you said, "I see it as an act of political rebellion" - what is the purpose of rebellion if not to worry people?

Haha, wow, you really must be a young person. Either that or very old?

What about the word "rebel", causes you worry?

Myself, I was raised on Star Wars, so the Rebels are the good guys. So I don't understand your point of view, at all. Can you explain your fear of rebellion?

Quote from: tertius993 on May 20, 2014, 07:42:19 PM

What is the relevance of Mark Karpeles or Silk Road to the larger question of Bitcoin. He is a bit player (no pun intended), a cameo at best.

Okay there you go, you asked a question and got your own answer, well done, a zero sum paragraph.

However, if you care to meet me in the rum > slaves > reality context of 1776, then we can discuss the real.

Quote from: itsunderstood on May 16, 2014, 02:39:55 PM

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Quote from: tertius993 on May 20, 2014, 07:42:19 PM

As does cash, and rather more commonly than crypto.

So? You stopped that point right there, I needn't go on. Cash has Ben Franklin face on it but is paper backed with paper.

Do you have any market experience or any credentials? Do you research true flows of capital and power? Because Tertius, I do. In addition to such Roman command traits as worshiping my goddess (oh and Jesus as well) and observing the birds. Meet me in the real.

Quote from: tertius993 on May 20, 2014, 07:42:19 PM

Now, we come to the nub of it. Yes, I can see you are trying to do that - and what I am asking is why? Why do you expend effort here, that, in all probability will be wholly wasted, instead of on BTC or one of the other more promising cryptos?

This is so funny how you say "more promising cryptos" --Bro, let me help you: Value judgements are what YOU decide they are. If you salivate for those, as you say "more desirable" ones, then why tell us about it? I am saying mining is an act of will, and you cannot even meet me there, so, hehe. Mining is an act of will just like using cash. Belief is all that cash is buffered by.

Quote from: tertius993 on May 20, 2014, 07:42:19 PM

No. No you didn't. You said that you considered modality and will to be the same, but that is hardly "explaining the concept" of will.

Will is jumping into a river. You are being obtuse, so go after the coins that represent what you believe. Mine the blockchain you hold most dear. Yes, I hold bitcoin and cash, NO, I do not counterfiet cash not do I mine BTC. I mine on principle. I do hold cash and BTC long tho, I am not like Bill Gates and Co who short the dollar and loathe it.

Quote from: tertius993 on May 20, 2014, 07:42:19 PM

Again, *how* is this the "first original 1776 blockchain"? It's more or less a copy and paste of Bitcoin, it even has the same difficulty adjustment parameters, to its detriment.

1: Because I say so. And, because it was fair. And, because it just WAS, the first one to summon a founding father's ghost. Get it? Do you even believe in ghosts?

2: You are so very right that all BTC devs own a future of liberty but their paychecks ain't gonna get it done. The dev of today will be hated by the children of tomorrow, because they are mostly just paycheck getting and not really heart involved in their pursuits. I am saying this as a desktop helpdesk tech having supported dozens of them as a cadre.

Yes, I love all who built BTC. I bought it at 70 USD per coin and hold it long. But I do also have LTC. But, this is the one I mine, this is the one with the ghost, this is the one where I am bringing the bill of rights.