Quote from: ChristianVirtual on May 18, 2014, 04:14:09 PM

Quote from: matt608 on May 18, 2014, 02:07:10 PM

What are people's opinions on promoting Curecoin to other folding teams?

There are some huge teams out there with 20,000+ folders and several with 10,000+. Having folders from other teams flood into Curecoin would have a huge impact on it's price as it would become effectively much more scarce (harder to earn due to folding competition). The more people who value Curecoin, the more valuable it becomes. Folders on other folding teams are also by far the 'easiest sell' as they already know what folding is, they know how to to it and clearly believe it's worth doing. So promoting Curecoin to other folding teams is an obvious move to make, at least from a marketing/investor perspective.

However, from a philanthropic perspective, (the 'other side to this coin' Wink

) It's a pointless thing to do because they are already folding for free. It doesn't encourage any more people to start folding, it just makes the price go up.

Then again, if more people value Curecoin, the network effect of Curecoin is strengthened, and will encourage more new comers to start folding in the long run. So if we strengthen Curecoin now by promoting Curecoin to other folding teams, that means the network effect in the future will be much stronger, which is good for Curecoin and good for folding@home. So I'm in favour of it, but if there are objects to this marketing angle, I'd like to hear them.

I'm folding only one year now but I enjoyed very much the spirit, culture, helping and cheering in my home team. Or the support from other teams. It was always clear to everyone: folding is donation, folding is for free. Folding is for a number of personal reasons something someone decided to spend their resources on.
It was not business, it was not mining; though some members take it very serious with the investments and running costs they have each month. What I want to say: there is a grown, healthy and diverse team structure in the community.

And this is the biggest single issue I have with CureCoin: the need to join a dedicated team. To leave the home team for money. Feels not right.

Temporary leave is always ok, like I tried CureCoin during beta runs with FC and RC, also the first few days with the real coin for a learning experience. Others members cross-joined teams for some short term challenges/competitions. Fine too.

Or a more emotional example of temporary team switching: http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=744019
Can you imagine member of this team would have joined this ? With a significant part of their resources ?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against money making, I need to pay for power and milk as anybody else; if someone inject enough real world money/value into crypto currency that's fine for me. Without this external input a coin like this is just a translation of the no-money-value PPD we have in F@H anyway. This is the part of crypto currencies overall I still don't understand. Someone/late joiner will pay the prize. It has a strong ".com bubble" character to me

I would prefer a team-neutral setup; as it was mentioned in the early days of CureCoin. If one want to join team 224497 because it's the right team: perfect. No problem. But going out and actively try to attract the high performer from other teams effectively run other teams dry and eventually destroy would be very unfriendly and egoistic. As such against the original spirit of F@H as I understood.

Thanks for the input.

We're not trying to attract high performers in particular to drain the other teams of their folding power, but rather increase Curecoin user numbers, which helps increase the value of Curecoin. A powerful folder isn't really of more value to Curecoin holders than a small-time folder. But that does still mean Curecoin holders benefits from other folders (big or small) leaving their current teams and joining Curecoin.

On the one hand, having a fund of Curecoins to makes donations to other folding teams (who can then distribute among their team members) is a way to help make the reward of Curecoin more inclusive, or more 'team neutral' as you put it. It's more fair to offer other teams Curecoins than to keep them all for team Curecoin. However, these 'donations' would be relatively small (compared the the amount team Curecoin folders receive), and have the much more significant impact of raising awareness about Curecoin among other folding teams, causing a movement off folders towards team Curecoin, which would be the whole motivation to do it in the first place. Is that so bad, does it actually matter that Curecoin can stir things up a bit?

Also, donating to other folding teams with the unspoken intent to drum up awareness about Curecoin isn't forcing anyone to change teams. It's simply letting folders know they can now make money from their good work. Don't they deserve to know? Keeping them in the dark about it seems unfair too. Let them know about it and then they can decide what to do.

A final point, you say it's against the original spirit of folding@home, a fair point, but then it helps Curecoin be successful which is likely to lead to press attention on folding@home and could result in far more folders coming into the 'fold' Wink

. Overall it only helps encourage more folding, it doesn't take any computing power away from folding@home, which being a scientific project is what it's all about, not the 'spirit', though I understand that is has some importance too.

Any more thoughts on this from anyone?