Quote from: Benjig on May 22, 2014, 07:14:28 PM

There is a member here who was selling guns for bitcoins, i will try to find him and edit my psot if i do.. but anyway i think we dont want to be related and tagged as a gateway to buy controlled things

I don't mind being related and tagged as a gateway to controlled things. I think it's a lucrative business. You just have to have enough empathy and wits to navigate the dangers created by coercive authorities. One thing to pay close attention to is the fact that the method being employed by those authorities is not so much criminalization as it is inconvenience. I've see other articles (besides the one I linked to) discussing this tactic. It is a means of tyranny without the actual violence. Instead of passing a law against gun ownership, which then tasks the government with a duty to enforce it, they instead explain to the banks that they are in danger of losing their charter (or some other kind of pressure) if they provide too much support for gun retailers.

Bitcoin solves many problems caused by the state, and I think it's a mistake to avoid using it just because it might piss off the statist propaganda machine. Bitcoin and bitcoiners (all successful life, really) is anti-fragile (meaning it grows stronger under adversity). We should welcome the challenges of supporting moral endeavors, especially if they are illegal (but moral). Bitcoin is an excellent tool to force the state to exhibit its essential depravity and thus motivate the populace to withdraw its support.

Quote from: burnettm on May 22, 2014, 06:24:50 PM

American here, from my experiences ...

Buying from a private party is almost always in cash, and you could only use bitcoin if the other guy knows about it and wants it; and most probably don't know what it is yet, or if they do, they probably dont care about it.

... Instead of all this hassle, if you really want to avoid signing a 4473, you can buy a 100% lower for less money in a private party sale.

I don't think it's a good idea to avoid things just because they might be difficult. The reason for suggesting to gun retailers that they consider bitcoin is that gun buyers can find their own bitcoin, and bitcoin buyers can find the gun retailers, and this chain cuts the bank (the "choke-point") out of the loop. It heals the wound being inflicted on the industry by the efforts to suppress gun ownership. Certainly it won't be a big success, perhaps not right away, perhaps not ever. Heck, the whole idea might waste a lot of people's time, but it introduces one of the key benefits of bitcoin (no need for trusted third-parties) to a lot of people who are at the edge of resisting coercive authority. Since the third-parties in this case are servants of coercive authority, it's a nice fit.