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24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning.

Have you audited the blockchain? Where all the payments not made go?

If 24hash was a scam, how that proves that anyone in the dev team is involved? And that is quite a big "if" considering people is claiming that they got paid in numbers similar to those claiming the opposite.

Finally, the world of altos is filled with proven scams, why do you feel the need to denounce this one not even using your real handle? You understand your credibility is more than suspect because of it.

Is it The Black Hand?

If they have nothing to hide, why did they delete all post in regards to it in the Official thread? Libertycoin originally stated only stupid post would be deleted but Iconic went delete crazy deleting anything that had an opinion that he/they did not agree with, including Real issues! Great way to lose original supports, it's like a kick in the teeth.

And then there is Troiste, Iconics right hand man and probably one of the worst human beings on the planet. I can't understand how people trust that guy to run a million dollar market cap! One of the most unprofessional people I have ever met, Do you think offering escorts is a good way to promote Liberty to your family and friends on Liberty day?

Not sure why you think I am the Black hand I have stated that I was just a little guy who got screwed out of my Liberty coin. That led me to researching and surprisingly most of it cannot be found in the official thread because it has been deleted.

Lastly I have already received a ton of PM from XLB fan boys and brand new accounts, calling me every name under the sun. I am sure half of them are probably Troiste but it would be a great way to ruin a Sr. Account. You can also say that maybe its not true but if you ask yourself the questions at the bottom of my original post, they have never been answered only called FUD and moved on. That's why a few people at least dumped because they see it for what it is. Some XLB are calling Liberty Bitcoin 3.0 and selling this image when its a clone of Hackcoin.

Now please ask yourself these questions:

If the coin code is copy and paste, of badger/hack which is a copy paste of nova which is a copy paste of peercoin how will this coin succeed?
Why is the press releases and paper wallets copy and paste?
How can you claim it was a fair launch when it didn't even last 4 days? (Think bitcoin/litecoin/peercoin/darkcoin how long have they been mined)
Why did they delete everybody's post who had coins stolen from the multi-pool?
How is it legal to offer free escorts when it may be illegal in their jurisdiction?
What are you using to implement anonymous technology?
Who is doing it for a 2 btc bounty when other coins couldn't find anybody to do it for under 50 btc?
Why does Iconicexpert have access to the dev account, since he is not a developer? (Most devs will simply let the community know who is the marketing direct, not give them access to their personal account)
Why is there no white paper, is it just fedoras mixer and an encrypted block chain?
what are the "unique properties" as you state that Liberty coin has unique properties?
What new an exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems does it offer since you make that claim?
Why do you censor peoples liberty in the official thread? (Taking away liberty from libertycoin)

Just this once I will answer some of your questions NOT to the best of my ability, but enough to clear some air maybe. Just this one because I use my handle, the only one I have, while you are a sock puppet, just to make it clear.
Alright, I will reply to some of your points once since you state you were buying as people sold, but now you can't say that nobody informed you!

Not only the code is copy paste, like the wallet (or close enough, anyway) but it is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that it is. Nobody has lied about that from the get go. Specifically Iconic posted clearly the reason why he was joining, the reasons: The name -I doubt you have the capacity to value what's in a name, but a lot is-, and the enormous market opportunity it presented. Not the code. Not the innovations. Just the name, basically. Then he created a very nice logo. And then he made a few promises. It is wayh too soon to believe or disbelieve those promises. A lot of people do.
If it is Public Knowledge how come in the promo material they are using for marketing states Liberty coin as having unique properties and having exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems. Its false advertising and does that equal Bitcoin 3.0 because they changed the name of hackcoin? I know the value of a name, but just because I call my Nissan a Bentley it doesn't change the fact that its still a Nissan. He also made statements about goals that were to be accomplished and they were time sensitive and deadlines were not met; Making him a liar.
Actually what it makes is you very poor at establishing similarities. A car brand is associated with performance and a prestige that comes from many years and accomplishments... nothing to do with cryptos at all. Besides, the deadlines are invented by you, never existed and no promises were made. IF they would have been, it would be the dev failing those deadlines, not IE. But I'll give you a deadline close enough: Tomorrow, in the US, but worldwide the event, two important and promised (by IE) innovative features, are being released... in keeping with the promises of innovation and singularity. Of course you will find a way to try to taint those too. Good luck with that!

Now, the most important thing is that you claim that, because you were scammed by 24 Hash, there was a conspiracy behind it. But you prove nothing of that short. That's absurd hearsay, or FUD as it were. If it is true and the devs were in cahoots with 24Hash, you will need to prove it, sorry.
Iconic has a history of making the same claims without as much circumstantial evidence and yet you seem to believe the guy has god like powers when it comes to marketing.
Because the marketing wisdom of IE has been corroborated and accepted by everyone, even his most redundant enemies and people that dislike, like me, some of his methods. No one questions his marketing abilities, no one.

You don't know who the dev is, but most people with half a brain does. I know his handle, his deeds -and there are many, of all kinds- and also his real name, nationality and geographical location. I had to investigate quite heavily to come up with the same referred to you "don" of BC and it's Black Hand. I have found no evidence whatsoever, so far, of any organized group acting in cahoots with the dev of Libertycoin. Furthermore, the biggest wallet in XLB has just about 400k coins... yes you have charged that it has been spread in hundreds of wallets, that's hard to believe and relatively easy to demonstrate soon enough in the future if the community so decides . In any case, just conjecture on your part.
How would you know what I know? Also you cannot see the amount of coins that people keep stashed on exchanges. It would surprise you! You also know that Iconic expert refuses to share even one of his many wallet balance as he doesn't want anybody in the community to see if he is dumping or not.
You posted yourself that no one knows who the dev is ? No it would not surprise me to know the amount of coins stashed at exchanges because, well, there's the blockchain, you see. You can see what is where. And there's no more than 450k stashed on ANY wallet, including those at the exchanges.

All those questions have a single answer: Iconic Expert. He has taken the FULL responsibility for those things. No need to look anywhere else. If he doesn't deliver, his reputation will be ruined. Fair enough? As you and other reading this well know, I don't like the guy personally and find some of his ideas preposterous, dangerous and counter-productive. And I find Troiste probably the individual most lacking class under the stars, but, a) IE has a lot of ideas and some of them with a lot of merit... enough to propel BC to 95 and more than enough to have taken XLB to 20 in 10 days. Those are facts whether you like the guy or not. As for Troiste, by luck or whatever, he FOUND Libertycoin. To Caesar what is Caesar's. I deplore as much as anyone the hookers idea that I have termed "Soepkip pants of XLB" myself. What's true is true. End of that story.
I can't believe you actually give the guy the entire credit for the blackcoin run to 95, they had a massive community a talented dev and a heap of other people working on it as well, Also almost every single coin gets pumped at one time or another so correlation isn't always causation.
So, to sum it up, unless you prove the 24 hash scam had anything to do with the devs of XLB, I am going to call that what it is: Bullshit.
ALL THE REST of your questions, have the same answer: Iconic Expert. For good, bad or in-between. Believe or do not believe, up to you. He IS Liberty coin. He has publicly assumed that responsibility.
Your answer sounds like Those questions are to hard/bad for Libertycoin so I am just going to say IE
You mistake "hard" with "stupid"... in keeping with your shortcomings about establishing similarities. It's meant to read that if IE doesn't deliver on those things, like he is delivering in a few hours, it will be his considerable prestige on the line. But make no mistake about it -read them aloud for reassurance- they are stupid, very stupid considerations/questions.

Now, keep the FUD if you like, but there's nothing tangible on your side of the net. Sorry but, like everyone else, you will need to wait to be able to colled shit. Otherwise, just a handle and an individual that everyone knows who he is and where he lives.

I hope I have satisfactorily answered all your questions.
Well your answer wasn't a real answer so no

Edit to add: The charge about only 3.5 days initial PoW mining, what do you expect? only 16.5 million coins. When they run out, they run out. It depends on the hashing power thrown at it, you should know that...
Hahaha what a comedian, Its called block reward and block time; you cant think of one coin that has been going since 09 hmmm only 12.9 million coins mined so far. Its an instant mine, designed so that if a coin takes off a few people get rich and is the bread and butter of shit pump and dump clone coins

There's humor in it, of course. I repeat: Libertycoin is IE's coin as far as I am concerned. Before he came on board, I can only assume -and you are not helping since you dont seem to be able to audit the blockchain- reasons for some of the circumstances, based on knowledge of the dev and some of his circumstances. But it is an assumption... as valid -actually considerably more so- as your unsubstantiated charges and extrapolations that have been contested by more people than that who has support them.

Are we assuming IE is smart here? Just saying, any expert trader/manipulator do not put their coins in one wallet, even in an exchange. that would be uber stupid.

Oh I don't know about smarts. Or about honesty. But let me pose a question to you and you decide: If your life would depend on it, who would you trust, a nerd reject that at 27 still lived with his parents for free rent and couldn't buy himself a computer or a successful businessman that ALSO has raised and supports a nice family?

Then again, are we assuming you are smart here?