Quote from: Balthazar on May 28, 2014, 08:25:49 PM

Quote from: Rassah on May 28, 2014, 07:54:34 PM

What I don't understand is, why are you morons so up in arms over a "democratically elected" president being deposed for trying to become a dictator

I'm sorry but the only "moron" is in your mirror, because only a moron would believe in something like that. Who told you this nonsense, CNN or FoxNews?

This was told to me by the people who were protesting on Maidan, when they told me why they were protesting, when I actually talked to them. Not some biased media.

Quote from: Balthazar on May 28, 2014, 08:25:49 PM

Don't be naive, do you really believe that police is unable to disperse such demonstration? If he wanted to become a dictator, he would have got it. If you believe that special forces were unable to resolve this type of problem, then you have never seen this guys in action. Less than 15 minutes would be required to resolve these "protests" by force.

That would not have worked, since doing that would have instantly lost all support for him in the whole country. Dictators can only stay in power if enough people support or are afraid of them. Don't forget, everyone protesting on Maidan was made to be criminals with a sentence of many years in prison if they got arrested. But the people showed that they were not afraid by not leaving. So wannabe dictator realized he did not have as much power as he hoped.

Quote from: Balthazar on May 28, 2014, 08:25:49 PM

He even wouldn't need to use an armed forces for that, just give the "Berkut" an order to use batons, and it's done...

He did give Berkut an order to use batons. There were many clashes that involved baton uses, except the protesters fought back. Why do you think the burning tire barricades were set up in the first place? It was to keep Berkut with batons away. As I said, you're morons. That, or worse, you are trying to rewrite history and spread lies and propaganda on purpose.

Quote from: Balthazar on May 28, 2014, 08:25:49 PM

I see typical pattern here:

1. Your gf have dropped you? / Your salary is not enough to cover the bills? / Your neighbor is a fool? / whatever
2. Blame it on russians.
3. PROFIT.

Actually, it's:
1. Russia attacks and invades Ukraine on multiple occasions throughout history.
2. Russia, despite being established by Mongols and the Golden Horde, lies by rewriting history to make it seem as if Ukraine, which had nothing to do with Russia, was always a part of Russia.
3. Russia invades Ukraine as it established the Soviet Union, and subjects Ukraine to mass pogroms, starvation, and economic devastation.
4. Soviet Russians assassinate my great-grandparents for being enemies of the state (royals), despite them not having any actual power over anyone.
5. Soviet Russians pursue by grandparents, and parents, by putting them on KGB blacklists, spying on them, tapping their phones, and on a few occasions attempting to arrest them and send them to gulags in Siberia or fatal cleanup duty in Chernobyl, with them surviving only by running and hiding when they can.
6. Russian politicians are still ex-KGB types that are pro communist, and seem to want to bring back "the glory days of the Soviet empire." Except now they are even joined by the very powerful Orthodox Church, so not only is their government trying to get back to bring a communist dictatorship, they are trying to be extremely religiously "moral" too, hoping to make even more speech and ideas illegal.

So, sorry if I have no love or trust for the Russian government after it has been fucking with Ukraine and my personal family history for over a century, and seems to want to continue to do that to other people.