Quote from: Navyman47 on May 28, 2014, 09:36:07 PM

Quote from: musicmaker613 on May 28, 2014, 09:26:20 PM

Quote from: Beave162 on May 28, 2014, 08:50:14 PM

Quote from: fredeq on May 28, 2014, 07:56:34 PM

I have to agree with musicmaker. As I recall there was a plan to drop nfactor back to n11 - this was still a good era for all the miners.

I have a feeling that (almost) all non-Chinese people are a bit scared of Chacha with nfactors switching. So, drop nfactor, keep it for a long time, invite miners

Not true fredeq! The constant manipulation will continue to take this coin lower and lower. What miners do you want to invite? How will that actually cause the price to rise? Because the price was higher when it was at NFactor 11?

I think most people here hate miners somehow which is why they dropped the block reward in the first place. I warned against it. Of course, I was ignored and shouted down because it was 'negative'.

I'm making more UTC/day now, with less hardware, at N-factor 13 than I was at N-factor 11. Difficulty drops at each N-factor due to the decrease in hashrate which makes it very difficult to gauge the long-term trend in difficulty over several N-factor changes. But as I said, I'm making more coin with less hardware than two months ago. The only way this is possible is if less hardware is on the network (fewer miners/fewer dedicated rigs). Since I generate more coins, I can sell them cheaper and net the same profit as two months ago. It's supply/demand economics in it's most basic form. Price wasn't higher two months ago because N-factor was lower (although that made it easier to config hardware, which is another, yet related issue). Price was higher two months ago because there were more miners dividing up the same coin supply (actually more since reward was still 50 UTC/block). Less coin per miner meant they sold at higher prices.

Profitability is still a great marketing point for this coin. And there are several areas where we can position ourselves to win over new miners:

*Continue providing better tools for configuring mining hardware such as the configgen page.
*Continue to investigate changing N-factor scheme to make mining consistent and user-friendly
*Develop tools and market to Nvidia miners. I'm mining on 750ti's and they are loads easier to configure than my AMD cards are WAY more efficient. Look for a big market of miners to arise when new Maxwell GPUs are released later this year/early 2015.
*Shorten POS - obvious
*Continue to position ourselves as the GPU mining alternative when scrypt ASICs push LTC/DOGE difficulty to the stratosphere (probably in 2014)
*Other thoughts?

How about posting expected hash rates (range) that a given GPU can expect to get. Should be posted on the announcement page.
I doubt that many non-utc miners know what hash rate to enter in the block for Whattomine.com for Chacha (Nf13).

If anyone is willing to collate then this is my current output:
4 x HIS 7970 Radeon Cards with 3GB. Three cards are getting around 19kHz (one card has a fan HW fault so only manages 13KHz). The cards are overclocked and undervolted to pull around 1KW at the wall. At current N-factor and difficulty of 0.06 I'm showing 250 UTC which gross is around $4.50

KC