Quote from: cod on June 03, 2014, 10:29:44 PM

Quote from: barabbas on June 03, 2014, 09:26:56 PM

Ity's just a name. Came to me at time of registration. No further meaning whatsoever.

No I am not the person whose family received death threats. Those were prompted, in my opinion, by racial hatred of which I, as a caucasian, would be excluded... I think.

But just to note, this is an UNEVEN playing field by which the crooks get away with murder by simply demand "proof" when they are making tens if not hundreds of thousand of dollars scamming innocent -and not so innocent- people under the cover of total anonymity and false pretenses that cannot, literally, be proven without access to their IPs... and in most cases, even with access to their IPs. These crooked scammers can only be pointed out under REASONABLE assumptions, circumstantial evidence, common sense and a process of elimination. For instance, the scam of Templar77/Carlos was discovered because he and loljosh had dumped at least 1.4 million Libertycoins. They believed it couldn't be proven... and really it couldn't... except by a process of elimination. No one who would have been able to dump such amount of coins actually did, not by any single wallet, not by a combination of wallets; just those three I located that dumped in a period of 48 hours. Furthermore (and this is the kicker), no one could have had such amount of coins -and even more- except the devs in cahoots with the 24hash.com pool that had been blamed as a con for not paying out the miners during the POW phase. Therefore, common sense and all circumstantial evidence kept on pointing in just one direction.

In other cases such as BC, the manipulation is so blatant that they even brag about it publicly, admitting to the existence of the Black Hand in their forum (conveniently called "a group of investors" with papers signed). It so happens these investors operate and manipulate from the inside and orchestrate most of the P&D. They even provide bounties for the multipool... that happens to be a separate business owned by two of the main developers who shrewdly pre-mined more than half the total BC coins and have been dumping by the millions since the very beginning, before the orchestrated P&D phases.

No, by conventional "burden of proof" many of these elaborated scams wouldn't stick, I admit it. But they are not playing by fair rules here so you do what you can to accumulate circumstantial evidence, proof, common sense and process of elimination.

It is with one purpose which is informing those who want to be informed and those few that actually care. Most, I have found, couldn't give less of a crap and are more than happy and willing to join with the crooks if they perceive they can make a quick buck -so to speak-. Lets face it, there are ONLY crooks in cryptoland, parasites of all kinds, nutcases and crackheads with the rest (minimal %) being the clear exception. So I don't very much care if the warnings don't produce the results that would be obvious and inevitable in the real world. To each his own.

That said, this wild west of now will be a regulated territory relatively soon, where people who commit felonies will; indeed be prosecuted. Carlos has already on alert not only the internet Police in his native Mexico but also the FBI and the IRS. The IRS is also appraised as to the exploits of the main Don at BC. They are on notice. Most will eventually.

Meanwhile, for as long as it entertains me, I will keep uncovering crooked actions, scammers and their schemes, whether with enough evidence to get absolute proof or only circumstantial one. I see it as leveling a bit -just a bit- the playing field so it is not 110% in favor if the bad guys. But everyone should decide by themselves and act, react -or none at all- as they please.

Crypto is behind in adoption because of the widespread crime without punishment across it. All those interested in their prosperity, should be on board to identify and get rid of the crooks. But, of course, instead, everyone is just blinded by their own greed. I guess is, up to a point, human nature. A very disappointing side of human nature anyway... of which, I am not immune by any stretch of imagination myself.

To end, a tip to everyone: I just found a new coin that cannot be a scam -by any conventional means- since it doesn't cost a single cent to get some coins: It is Zippercoin. Look for it everywhere and get your free coins. Nothing wrong with free, right? I am already in and believe that it can be quite a nice addition to a very crowded and crooked field.

Thank you.

I appreciate the level-headed response as to your motivations.

We've all been scammed in one coin or another and I know many of us are getting sick and tired of it. It will change, one way or another. People will get tired of it or thieves will be punished (hopefully not through vigilantism).

You can take my word for it or not; I have a total of ~7BTC valuation right now if I dump everything. And I only dream about hundreds of thousands. I have no interest in stealing. I believe anyone looking at my post history will see that I only seek truth even if I'm snarky sometimes.

I'm still not convinced that Carlos is directly connected to CINNI. I think many of us have proceeded with caution and are aware of the potential here, positive or negative. If Carlos was orchestrating and still involved with CINNI, I highly doubt he would have admitted that publicly in #Libertycoin. Given that he publicly admitted that, I'm more inclined to believe Battbot's response that Carlos cut communication and fucked off to his own coin. And I do believe the fear and suspicion is built in to the price currently as we saw a pretty massive sell-off when that news came out.

I must have expressed myself very poorly. I have never contended that Carlos may be still involved with CINNI and I surely believe he just left after making promises that he couldn't possibly fulfill leaving everyone hanging. It's one of his trade mark behaviors, as a matter of fact.

No, what makes me believe this is just another manipulated scam are many other things, like the secrecy as to who the developers ares, the "announcements" that announce absolutely nothing and, in general, the total lack of transparency for nothing actually works while "efforts" are announced to be done things that no one has any remote way to know if they are within the scope of abilities of the devs or is (more likely) just pulling your collective chain. I know Carlos designed the logo -that his only area of some expertise- and I don't know what else he did here, nothing good that's for sure nor what if any relationship to the "secret order" of "many" developers working on the future wonders of this ridiculously named coin. I have no idea how many coins the million and a half developers and multitude communications and community managers have. Nor I care. I traded it. for a very small gain. And I believe there's no future in ity for the many reasons already exposed, but I could be wrong and I never, ever, give advice to anyone... other than recommending, if so they choose, to get something for free, something that would not cost a thing to anyone. If it goes to 6 or 5k and I believe another pump and dump thingy is on the horizon, I will probably buy back in for a quick trade. Never invest in it because, like I said, there are at least 3 dozen much more qualified coins out there that, worse case scenario would be similar deal regarding scam and best case scenario, no scams at all.

And will indeed have a less idiotic name, which clearly will put them at a considerable advantage. Excluded, of course, if CAIx.