Quote from: Justin00 on June 08, 2014, 05:14:29 AM

team up with dank and do a music charity event.
charity going to dank that is.

I do feel for you if you have sick relatives. must be tough Sad

It's probably one of the hardest things that's ever happened to me to be honest, I didn't think it would ever "be me" or "happen to me" but it did. All in a timeframe of a month or so, of course a lot of it could have been prevented especially in my grandmother's case.

Quote from: Vod on June 08, 2014, 05:02:31 AM

If you don't die from anything else, you will get cancer.

Cancer is nature's way of controlling the population.

You need to find peace with that. Money will not help you in the way peace will.

It's hard though because honestly, I'm so desperate for a quick fix for the solution. I mean I sit here crying and I know my grandmother will be dead, and my father has a rare auto immune disease so if he has to do chemo which he probably will I'm not completely sure he will survive it. And that's two dead relatives or family members in a matter of months. I've been through a lot of personal tragedy in the past couple years, this is something that would send me far over the edge.

Quote from: Light on June 08, 2014, 05:21:14 AM

Quote from: eltortugaloco on June 07, 2014, 09:28:47 AM

Stealing is never right, it doesn't matter if your entire family is dying of cancer. You can get a real job and make money, or start a business. Taking that money from other people is the worst thing you can do.

I wouldn't make absolute statements unless you are sure they are always right (they never are). You cannot truthfully tell me that if it was necessary you would not steal to ensure the survival of the people you loved most. People stole bread back the 1700s to keep their impoverished families alive. Of course, if you did manage to get past that difficult time it's a different question of whether you'd repay for those things that you stole (ethical) or just keep it (thief IMO).

Now that being said, @OP you have to understand that it's impossible for people to actually verify that you're telling the truth and not some well-spoken scammer who has done their research. People have been burned before giving out charity to a scammer and that's why people don't do it anymore. If you did in fact steal to help your parents and grandparents, I won't judge you yet. It depends what you do after. If you pick yourself up when they eventually go and try to lead an ethical life (and repay those debts) then I wouldn't call you a scammer. But then again I'm just another unknown face on the internet. It's really up to you to decide if you're an ethical person - no one can make you believe that or not except you.

I have not stolen anything from anyone, I've thought about it a lot. I've thought about ways just to turn a quick buck online, whether it be from stupid survey sites to bitcoin, to anything. But I have no stolen anything in the name of anyone else. I have put up a website about my grandmother, and for donations but I haven't promoted it because it felt morally and ethically wrong to do so. I just at the end of the day want everyone to be fine, I know the money won't help, they can't take it with them and it's only a part time satisfying feeling. But I so desperate want everyone to be better that it's like....I don't know being desperate enough to do ANYTHING to make sure everyone is ok.

I guess I just need a better way of handling things.

As far as whoever said get a job, here's the gist of things:
I'm on disability, I was in a car accident in 2007 in Ohio on my way home from a business trip. I was working making 25 bucks an hour for a major phone company that we won't name. I wasn't seriously injured but it became a problem for me to do certain things like drive, etc. Then in 2008, I had my gallbladder removed, which by all means is a simple operation for most people, but I was so so sick that i literally couldn't eat. I went through a month and a half of that alone before someone took me to be seen by a doctor. When I finally was seen I was in the hospital 4 days before they finally removed my sick gallbladder, and now I have a problem with eating where, I cannot and will not eat if possible. The sight of food makes me gag. I wish I was lying about all of this.

I'm waiting on SSI right now because I was denied thanks to the stigma on people being disabled and having panic disorder, I hear back sometime in October about my case and if I can somehow get approved. Until then I have no income, I'm making forum posts and a small amount of BTC in order to try and gather some money together. I'm living with my mother and she is getting really uptight about me not having a job. There is literally nothing at this point that I can do but feel desperate and wait.

I'm sorry for the long post.