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The closed source problem is no different than NXT a few short months ago.

Keep it closed source for as long as you like, dev. Retain the first mover advantage. Release when good and ready. No hurry. Cool

Agreed. Evan should maintain a closed source pipeline. Keep the latest tech closed until it's ready for release. The copy coins will always be behind the development curve.

It keeps the douchedevs and their shitcoins exposed. This is the reason I argued for longer time-to-open 1200 pages ago. This isn't 2009 and Satoshi already made BTC... It's different now.

it is no different - market PAYS for open-source first mover advantage, always everywhere. the shitcoins can clone as much as they want, they will never reach the originals implementation - in my opinion dark makes two significant errors: it concentrates too little on ring signature with the promise of adding something better + keeping it closed sourced.

I am not trolling but I could start singing a farewell - not for short term, but for mid and long term

This doesn't make sense to me. What is your definition of mid and long term? They seem to match the definition of short term... We're looking at a roadmap that currently, after prudent delays, says 1.5 months to full implementation... Even if delayed by 100% of that time frame, 3 months away, that still fits my definition of the short side of mid term... That argument just doesn't make any sense to me since even at a stretch all of this is on the roadmap to be handled in the short term, and even with tremendous delays, still on the stretched end of short term...

I'm really annoyed by this ring sig talk... I'd still be happy if it weren't included at all. It's really cool and a big deal, no doubt. But, it's not a fundamental requirement. DRK would work fine without it. We still haven't even seen what Evan has up his sleeve for that role, and I'm glad he hasn't blabbed.

DRK is in a make-or-break phase as everything planned depends upon the masternode incentive to go with the external loop proof of service genius. But, I really don't see the uncertainty everyone else is seeing. It'll work. Once it does, everything else is just feature adds. This is the hard part, but there's no reason to think the software can't be written, oh no, abandon ship! It's software... The iterations I go through just goofing with PHP are worse than this... It's not like mechanical engineering where you're limited by the laws of physics. Anything can be done in software.

As long as the coin supply and mining algo aren't tampered with, the rest is (largely) investment-ineffectual sandbox and can only make the coin better.

BitCoin was, and is, an experiment. DRK improves upon it where needed, and doesn't try to re-invent the whole wheel in the process. If a coin were invented that could blow me, no doubt, I'd be interested, but bottom line is that it doesn't have to blow me to be a good coin, and half the target demographic wouldn't have a use for that feature...