Quote from: RoadStress on June 09, 2014, 09:46:56 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on June 09, 2014, 09:30:36 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on June 09, 2014, 09:00:38 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on June 09, 2014, 07:05:58 PM

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SP30 will be 2400 Watts for 6 TH/s!!!!

That's simply not true.

One month and a half and it will be true!

No it won't. They advertise 2500w for 6th/s plus or minus 10% (my guess is minus). They are extremely optimistic with their estimations assuming that they will have 0.43w/gh while overclocked. That is more than 40% less than the sp10 underclocked. A die shrink should only expect 30% improvement in efficiency.

What was your guess about AM gen3 chip performance? I am sure it wasn't 1.1W/GH like it came out. You also guessed that you will receive dividends in May and you failed again. Your guesses seems to be a bit off.

It doesn't matter what my or anyones guess is. We are in the era of in stock hardware where you don't need to guess or buy a high tech magic crystal ball to not get ripped off.

Also none of those guesses were mine. They were estimations made by FC which were subject to change. They never sold preorders so not hitting specs/dates is not a problem because as investors we agree to take those risks. It is simply bullshit to put all the risks of the investors on the "customers" and give them none of the reward that the actual investors get.

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This is the worst explanation I've heard. They have more than enough money to buy all the components for all 3 batches if they wanted to.

They chose to go with preorders because they know that they cannot sell their hardware for ~$1/gh in 3 months and by doing so they put tons of unnecessary additional risks on their customers.

Nobody knows their financing books so please don't speak without proof. This is just a reason. I am sure that there are more which favor the customers.

Well they did sell ~5PH worth of hardware (at 40 sp10/day) and I'm guessing they made a profit of ~$2/gh average so they should have plenty of money.

How exactly do preorders benefit the customers at all?

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I'd also suggest never believing anyone trying to sell you something as an affiliate.

Why is that? 1% of the total hashrate sold through my affiliate link will go to charities and bitcoin software developers.

And be honest. I am not the only one with an affiliation. You are affiliated with HashRatio too. Not directly, but indirectly by being an AM shareholder. So at least I let OP know that my sig is an affiliate link while you pretend to not have any affiliation whatsoever.

Difference is you earn a hefty % of each sale where as I earn next to nothing per sale. I have nothing to gain by convincing individual people to buy rxboxes. The petahash mines are what will affect my dividends and naturally those whales will gravitate towards the best deals regardless of what I have to say.