Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on June 11, 2014, 04:21:16 PM

Quote from: ChuckBuck on June 11, 2014, 03:29:15 PM

Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on June 11, 2014, 03:24:06 PM

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Quote from: MinerTechnologies on June 11, 2014, 02:46:50 PM

At current - 11756551916.9 difficulty, our cloud clients earn $841.68 per month. Approximately $25-$27 USD daily. Which means you get ROI back in 3 months.

Im talking about this contract - http://mining.minertechnologies.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=43

Yes, but I find it very hard to belive that you don't know that this difficulty is increasing every 11 days (between 12% - 20%). Your calculations are misleading because you know very well what I'm talking about. It's not good for the image of your company to state false numbers, the difficulty it's not static. Present all the risks with buying cloud mining contracts so the costumers can make their calculations . Don't mislead costumers with false calculations, we had enought companies like this!

It's not just the difficulty that changes. The price of BTC also changes.

Quote from: ChuckBuck on June 11, 2014, 03:17:16 PM

Sorry, $2.6 per GH/s is just not competitively priced at all. No ROI for customer at all locked in for a year, only profit for provider and that's it.

Gotta be much lower than $2 per GH to even be considered.

It's all variables and it's all risk. Whether or not you choose to accept it is the question. You can't just make a blanket statement of "if it's not under $2 per GH, it'll never ROI." If the price of BTC shoots up to $1000 tomorrow, that $2 per GH will ROI just fine.

Not if you pay in BTC, it won't. If you pay 4 BTC, you'll never mine back 4 BTC under any conditions, whatsoever.

So my blanket statement does apply.

No, your statement was using USD "...lower than $2 per GH to even be considered". If you pay a current price of $2.60, which is the asking price of the contract, that's your starting point. if BTC crashes to $100 and stays there, you'll never recover your initial investment. If BTC goes to $1000, you're going to make your investment back and then some.

Your next statement, "...you'll never mine back 4 BTC under any conditions..." is incorrect. If difficulty were to remain a constant, at current difficulty you'll mine 15.622BTC in a year. Projecting a 10% difficulty increase will net you ~6BTC.

Since when does difficulty stay still? I actually anticipate a massive spike once Asicminer puts their 15 PH on the network.

You're using the wrong calculators dude, no way you'll mine 15.622 BTC under any conditions.