Quote from: the joint on June 13, 2014, 01:44:03 PM

Here's a flow chart of your thinking, @CoinGeneral

1) Assert argument -- do people agree?
   a) If yes, smile smugly. End.
   b) If no, go to 2.
2) State evidence -- do people agree?
   a) If yes, smile smugly. End.
   b) If no, go to 3.
   c) If no and they provide counter-reasoning, go to 4.
3) Post silly picture and/or spin stated evidence -- do people agree?
   a) If yes, smile smugly (this will never happen). End.
   b) If no, go to 4.
4) Ignore all counter-reasoning and morally condemn those that don't agree -- do people agree?
   a) If yes, smile smugly (this will never happen). End.
   b) If no, go to 3.

Lol.

Quote from: Snippetz on June 13, 2014, 02:24:48 PM

I worked in a health food store for 2 years. I met my fair share of vegans / vegetarians and they're all crazy just like you.

I like how you say Weston A Price's book is just one big anecdotal point of view and then you give me this big wall of anecdotes. What am I supposed to say? I can't deny your experiences.

That's like a christian coming up to me and telling me, "God is real man, I've experienced him and if you would too then you would also believe in him!"

It's your personal experience, but I'm sure there are more variables involved, but again, I would have to see pre and post events leading to it as well as general mindset blah blah.

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Everything became better man, EVERYTHING. My thinking process, my energy levels, my relationships with people, my skills in different fields, everything improved.

That's too funny.

If I go vegetarian will it erase my credit card debt and pay for the rest of my school too?

I would probably consider it then.

You're saying this as if I didn't do my research and assume I was brought into society by my parents and was raised as a vegetarian or a vegan. As if I had never eaten meat before, as if I had never cooked meat or experienced both sides before. I changed to this diet since I like to try out many different food types, and found out veganism was hands down the best, the healthiest, and makes so much sense plus you don't miss out on anything at all. I'm actually loving life more than ever, more than 5 people I know and can name are trying out vegetarianism as well now because they saw how much more vibrant, cheerful, energized, and productive I became thanks to this lifestyle change.

You on the other hand, are very closed minded. You say it's not even a bad thing to become a vegan or vegetarian and it can even be healthy, reverse diabetes, cure cancer, weight loss, etc, but you don't even want to try it out. No one is saying it's a permanent life choice, no one is saying you have to call yourself a vegan or a vegetarian and affiliate yourself with that group, no one is saying you can't eat meat ever again. You can always go back to eating meat again if that's what you choose and veganism or vegetarianism doesn't work out for you.

It's the same with me, I tried out veganism just like I tried out all the other diets out there. Just to try it out. It wasn't a permanent life choice, it wasn't a necessity, I wasn't affiliating myself with the vegan group. I wanted to see what all the fuss was about, and my mind was blown. Energy went up, vitality went up, brain function went up, I was saving money on food, I started becoming more active, it was as if life had taken on a whole new playing field. I don't feel any need or hunger to consume any animal products anymore and that's why I don't and choose not to.

It's backed up by science, backed up by stories, backed up by logic.

What makes more sense: hunting and killing an animal which takes a long time, taking out the tools necessary to remove the fur, feathers, organs, bones, and other bloody parts that aren't edible, taking out the few small pieces that are edible, washing that part thoroughly to make sure it's bacteria free, not to mention the terrible smell of the carcass that humans evolved to stay away from, washing it over and over again, finally cooking that part until it turns to a brown color or freezing it before it rots in a short time span, then eating it while it's hot because when it's normal temperature or cold it tastes like crap which is why the microwave and oven exist, not to mention the spices, sauces, herbs, etc, added just to make it taste acceptable.

OR

Just plucking a fruit out of a tree and taking a bite into it. Or taking a vegetable out of the ground and washing it then eating it. You don't even have to cook these foods yet you can, nor are you scared away from them. Nor do they take much effort at all in harvesting. And they taste really good naturally without any spices or herbs or sauces added. Plus you already know eating fruits and vegetables is a healthy thing, I don't think anyone will ever disagree with you on that one.

But the society we live in is very delusional. No one cares about math or science, no one cares about education, no one cares about a healthy diet, no one cares if their religion is wrong, people like to live in a fantasy world where meat is perfumed with antibiotics and drugs and think no animal has to suffer and get slaughtered, where taking pills and going to the doctor daily is a normal activity, where cancer, diabetes, and obesity are completely normal, where lack of energy so you need coffee and five hour energy just to move around is completely normal, etc. Just a delusional world. The diet cure that can literally solve all their problems is right in front of their faces but most people are simply the blind following the blind and everyone gets lost together.

Check out these videos:

Benefits I felt after taking meat out of my diet

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Girl Cures and Reverses Stage 3 Brain Cancer on Vegan diet