Quote from: ElGrandJefe on June 21, 2014, 04:55:04 PM

Quote from: WhitePhantom on June 21, 2014, 04:35:02 PM

Quote from: Bicknellski on June 21, 2014, 11:20:15 AM

Remember back when you did your email exchange... what happened then? What is happening now? And you don't believe he is a scammer? Ok.

Quote from: WhitePhantom on June 21, 2014, 05:47:52 AM

Having visited their facilities in September last year and having had lengthy conversations with Sonny, I find this hard to believe. They may be incompetent, but I don't believe for a second that they have intentionally screwed over their customers. Also, if there were any Mexican employees, they sure didn't stand out to me amidst the many people working hard in their assembly rooms.

Do we remember when?

Quote from: WhitePhantom

Just in case anybody's interested in some E-Mail dialogue I had with Sonny at BFL:

Quote from: My E-Mail to BFL on Jan. 24th
Hello,

I'm writing to inquire about two things.

First, can you give me a rough guesstimate of when the Rig Box might be available for shipping? Even something as vague as "at least 12 more months" or "in 1 to 6 months" would be helpful. More specific would be even better. I would like to know so I can have a better idea of when I might need to make funds available to purchase one.

Second, I would just like to have a clue as to whether there's any hope that I'd be able to afford a SuperComputer when it becomes available, depending on its capabilities, of course. Can you tell me whether it's likely to be closer to the $100,000 mark or the $1,000,000 mark?

Quote from: BFL's Response on Jan 30th
We are awaiting the completion of our first production run of Singles before we focus on the Rig Box product. Until then, I can't give you an accurate time estimate. Once we're through our current tasks, we will make public announcement with timing expectations and accept orders for the Rig Box.

With regards to the SuperComputer product, that is too far away to even speculate on.

Kind regards,
Sonny K
BF Labs Inc.

I'm surprised that they can't even give me a guesstimate on the rig box when all I asked for was a vague answer. I'd have to see strong evidence that the rig box performs as well as they claim before risking that amount of money on equipment for BTC mining, not that I even have it other than through a line of credit.

Likewise, not that I have $100k or $1 million, but I was hoping to get something out of them about the Super Computer since their website says, "If you would like more information about this institutional grade system, please contact us with your inquiry." I didn't think an answer on whether it's closer to $100k or $1 million would require speculation.

They've given me more cause for doubt, but I'm also still hopeful that they're just slow at production and reluctant to answer questions. Time will tell.

I do recall, and I have only 3 thoughts on it.

1. Pre-ordering an FPGA rig box (in the end, 2 FPGA mini-rigs) from BFL was, at the time, the best financial decision I had ever made, even though I was shortsighted and sold all the BTC as I mined them.
2. Pre-ordering ASIC mini-rigs from BFL was, once again, the best financial decision I've ever made, even though they delivered incredibly late.
3. Since they took so long to deliver the 65nm ASIC line, I had zero faith that they were capable of delivering the Monarchs less than a year late, so I didn't order.

I am satisfied with my BFL experience, even though it was very rocky at times. I don't personally believe they're dishonest, based solely on my experience with them. I have not been following much of anything on them since last September, other than occasionally noticing that the Monarchs haven't shipped yet.

Until you prove otherwise, you're just another BFL shill working on the long con.

Because shills often call their benefactors incompetent; makes perfect sense. I'm sure there's enough proof in my fairly long post history for anybody who really cares whether I'm being truthful.

I'm just commenting with my thoughts, and, in case it wasn't apparent, I feel for those who have had a less satisfactory experience with BFL. Just saying that mine was mostly good. Other than being slightly annoyed, it makes little difference to me whether you believe me, as I have no stake in BFL. Pretty soon I'll be shutting off the 65nm gear I bought from them and moving on to KnC Titans.