Quote from: DrG on June 23, 2014, 08:21:25 AM

What I want to know is what happened at BFL between 3/31/13 and 6/30/13. It took over 3 months for BFL to go from "shipping" Luke's Single to shipping my Single, and my Single was one of the first 100 ordered.

Probably not the whole picture, but note that Little Single was the original design (square case that was later used for the 5Gh unit) and used 8 chips (IIRC) to run the 30 Gh/s.
The final 30Gh unit ended up something like 2x the size using only 4 chips (again IIRC), and uses less electrical power.
It probably has a longer lifetime too (the original one already died and got RMA'd a long time ago).

Quote from: DrG on June 23, 2014, 08:21:25 AM

During that 3 month delay I lost the potential return of my 209BTC outlay.

While it probably doesn't help (we all still lost a lot on this downtime), we can't actually know the total loss value.
Had BFL actually delivered on time, the difficulty would have skyrocketted even before the Avalons shipped...

Quote from: DrG on June 23, 2014, 08:21:25 AM

I want to know if BFL was actively mining at extended length with first Singles. Ultimately I was only able to mine a little over 17BTC with something I spent 209BTC. There's not making positive ROI and then there's having a company steal your money outright by using your hardware while blatantly telling lies "oh we can't get it to work". Angry

I don't think they were, but I don't have any evidence either.

Quote from: RoadStress on June 23, 2014, 08:27:29 AM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on June 23, 2014, 08:21:11 AM

So you're not interested in the facts, just trolling.
Thanks for clarifying that; I'll stop wasting my time answering you.

I am interested in facts. Facts which you are evading to tell and you put me to search for them.

It's either you or me searching; I already know the conclusion, so I don't care to take the hours looking through the thread (stupid bitcointalk won't let me download all the posts in it for some reason).

Quote from: RoadStress on June 23, 2014, 08:27:29 AM

If you say that the bet should have been a Win for BFL then you must know the terms for the bet. Putting me to search for them is a waste of time. If you don't know the terms for the bet then you just talked without nothing to back it up, but I am sure it's not your case.

I knew the terms over a year ago when it was an active topic.
I recall the conclusion (that it should have been a BFL Win), but not the details.