Quote from: breakingcode on June 23, 2014, 08:31:40 PM

Quote from: ORabbit on June 23, 2014, 04:04:13 PM

Quote from: CryptoGuy on June 23, 2014, 03:38:03 PM

I like how BA hasn't bothered to lower the price of their miners even as other manufacturers drop their prices and release new miners. $373 for 100gh was barely a good deal back in December. I sense it's just another way of them manipulating their compensation. I just can't see anyone buying those in the last month thinking it's a good deal. Maybe that's why they don't want to talk compensation, they probably haven't had any more money roll in since they got people to pre-order their compensation power supplies.

No money coming in means no money to build compensation units. If they lower the price to get more people to buy in then their compensation numbers go up even higher as they promised to send extra hashing power if they lowered the price.

Yep. Despite all the accusations, I don't see a scam. I see a company that severely underestimated the scale of this project. They made certain promises that I'm sure they intended to keep, but now they're just f'ed. If they lower the price to encourage new money, they'll have to extend that savings to orders placed in November, thereby canceling out the new money. If they allocate all their resources to a fair compensation for existing customers, they have no product to sell to new customers. It's a catch 22, and everyone's left holding the bag.

Yep,.. never attribute to malice what can easier be explained by stupidity or incompetence. (Both of which BA seem to mine considerably faster than bitcoins)

they will drop the price after these ship. if they do it now they will have to increase what their suckers, errr, their batch 1 people, receive.

the X-3's will be cut to ~3K immediately after existing orders are filled. I've seen other manufacturers do that already and there's no reason these guys won't also, as there's no fricking way anyone in their right mind is ordering an X-3 for 6K when you can buy a 1.6 from Cointerra off the shelf for 3349, and they're still not moving at that price. Those assholes shipped all their preorders at 6K a pop and then slashed the price in half.

just another way these manufacturers are fucking the people that paid them in the first place. they charge x at time Y, then deliver at time z when the product is worth 0.5x, keep the original customers' money for a product that is no longer worth what they paid for it, then slash prices to dump the remainder, all the while stringing people along and dicking them on refunds and anything else they can get away with, and hiding behind semantics and bullshit all the while.

Dealing with Black Arrow has, without question, been the shittiest experience I have ever had in terms of buying a product. The other ASIC manufacturers are no better from what I've seen, with a few exceptions.