Quote from: Agent99 on June 25, 2014, 12:03:04 PM

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Quote from: rethink-your-strategy on June 25, 2014, 11:03:09 AM

Quote from: flower1024 on June 25, 2014, 09:20:46 AM

I think you're wrong here. Even CryptoNote developers said the BCN team exists since 2012 (https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11&start=10).
And have you seen my research of BCN blockchain? Have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512747.msg7467098#msg7467098 . A lot of people used Bytecoin from the beggining!

For sure Bytecoin devs have a lot of coin, but gossips about the 80% in their hands are ridiculous.

Hey fuckface - again, we're not stupid. You're using AN ACCOUNT YOU BOUGHT.

Reference: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/repaid-i-want-to-short-20btc-until-january.67496/#post-1142765 (reference to flower1024's domain / site)

Note on that domain: http://k1024.de/accountsold.txt

"bitcointalk account flower1024 sold. new account name: onemorebtc"

You're just digging yourself a hole that is deeper and deeper.

FACT: Bytecoin was a bad attempt at covering up a premine

FACT: Bytecoin has a completely fabricated blockchain

FACT: Bytecoin has 82% of the coins in control of people we don't know

FACT: Bytecoin's blockchain was not observed by anyone who is well known or trusted

FACT: Bytecoin has plenty of advocates...unfortunately they're all newbs who don't count, or bought accounts

FACT: Bytecoin's website (and CryptoNote's) did not exist till the end of last year (same as the CryptoNote whitepaper)

Quote from: Cheesus on June 25, 2014, 09:42:59 AM

Agreed.

I'm not a hater of XMR of any kind but this is getting out of hands. Literally in every CN-related topic there are XMR people FUDing BCN. And their arguments are not bulletproof to say the least.

Anyway, I think XMR doing a great job promoting CN in it's community but FUD is not a good thing to do.

I'm not "XMR people", I'm an independent observer who is tired of seeing all the bullshit posts from accounts that have been purchased. Nobody cares about your shilling.

First of all, no one of you can tell it's ''premine'' - there's no official source that can tell it's premine without doubt!
According to coinssource its unknown fact still I am sure it wasn't premined as I've made some researches which confirm the statement.

In the second, your ''facts'' are statement without evidence.
1) There are people who express their own opinions
2) No evidence
3) Do you know people who hold a significant amount of Bitcoins? Or Litecoin? or Dogecoin? That's because of anonymity the coins provide
4) Am I get you right - if someone well known tell you to believe whatever they tell , you'd believe?
There were lots of people who believes Mark Karpeles and where is MTgox now?? and Mark?
5) Bytecoin has plenty of enemies who can only FUD Bytecoin
6) Do not merge Whitepaper and Bytecoin. Even CN devs told that whitepaper was published a lot after BCN launch.

So, as there's no evidence, I insist on removing stars, Gliss!

IMO, it's Monero guys who are pumpers and FUDsters. Monero's guys understand that they would never be as good as BCN for a simple reason - Monero is only a fork. Only BCN devs have enough skills and knowledge about cryptonote tech to make improvements. So, Monero's guys can only copy BCN devs ideas and gossip about ''premining''

You do realize that there is proof Bytecoin was premined over 85%....Uhm the blockchain..you can see all past mined blocks, and over 85% of bytecoins total supply have been mined before it was made public aka Bytecoin has a 85% premine There's simply no argueing with that, as the bytecoin blockchain is proof! Also the "public" Bytecoin miner was not working for a long time, but blocks were still being mined AKA a handful of people were getting the majority of Bytecoins from their own private miner, and now that handful of people own over 85% of all Bytecoins...