Quote from: quarkcheck on July 04, 2014, 10:21:05 AM

Thanks quarkfx's proposal, coinmama and others(DI,VIC,reRaise etc) involved in this topic. Especially thanks cryptohunter for brought up the companion coin proposals etc

Yeah agree with silvermetal we still have a lot of things need to be ironed out, a lot of possible solutions need to be openly discussed.

I really like quarkfx's "Community Premine" + merge mine(other members proposals) + a companion coin with continuous innovation features idea, you could sort of think it as a way of crowd funding for Quark Project.

But since this will not be a quick nor easy answer we need more community members to actively involved and discuses it as well as general consensus!

So my proposal is why don't we, reverse the order, do the Democratical Foundation part first? If we can get enough interests and community collective intellectual brain power we sure can come up solutions for those difficult questions above..

My two Quarks

Thanks

Yes, it's great to see some new ideas getting discussed here now. I think together we can come up with something to turn this around. Yes with organic growth perhaps we should only be at the price we are now. However there is NO reason not to improve our situation. The end game i think is ROI projects which we all get involved in, discuss and get rewarded from. That should be the final goal.

Getting to that will require quite a bit of work. We need to bring back to the community investors that have just bought and forgotten they owned qrk. They think it is like stocks in a company where you buy them and other people will work hard to make you rich because they are getting paid a salary by the company you own stocks in. This is NOT the case with crypto like QRK. Yes, it may be the case with coins like drk or others where the devs are very hands on and motivated by the large stash of coins the instamine or premine provided them. I mean reaching MAX or hearing from him is like contacting TOAA in the marvel universe there are rumours that people speak with him and discuss things but really that could be myth and legend. There is actually NO single person leading QRK right now that has any contact with the community. Hence a ship with no captain.

So anyway, i see we need to solve these issues.

1. Elect a true community manager/s that have time/energy to unite the qrk community. VIC. DI ....some not scared to give things a try.
2. Bring back the investors holding qrk to discuss the future projects/services.
3. Solve the chain security issue.
4. Get some projects/services going. (funded by ROI or other ways)
5. Stop missing out on the hype trains that bring in new BTC and community members.
6. Start reaching out once more beyond the crypto communities
7. QRk exchange for fiat only. No other crypto. No point reaching out and finding people that have not heard of crypto only to introduce them to 400 other coins.

Let's look at all options and see which one solves most of these whilst having the least negatives.

I say the superblock is still the best way i see it as a time machine only. All coins with active development have a development fund. This is like a premine of 10% but released only gradually in return for work completed. However i hear people saying it has will be seen as negative so let's skip the superblock idea even though i am yet to hear specific negatives. I am certain if announced with the work or projects ahead of time that it will go to fund. The price of quark will rise far more than 10% and way more than 1000% as the projects get completed.

Anyway since it just seems people are against it out of principle let's forget that for now although it would solve all issues except the chain security, even though over time if the projects cause a steep rise in price it could solve the chain security issue too.

Okay, the companion coin. Let's discuss the best way to bring this in. Premined and ipo sold only for qrk only. Sidechain claimable only over time by active qrk holders, combination of the two?, if it was not premined then some premine some merge mined? although i see not how merge mining benefits current qrk holders only other than to add security to the chain. However may be i am wrong and there are other benefits i'm not seeing. Hence let's discuss it. Would be great for someone to list down the pro/cons of each method.

The companion coin i see has zero negatives at all. All services, features etc that were ever developed for it could be applied to qrk and qrk be accepted as payment also on all services catering to the companion coin. I don't see that as competition... the companion coin could provide - funding for features to be developed, services to be developed, create a dev pot, bring back disinterested qrk holders, bring in people that love hype and features with their btc and input, lead to much more interest in ROI projects, more activity = more back links more buzz. I see 0 negs if implemented correctly.

Max if he does not wish, needs to have nothing to do with the companion coin. We can bring in a totally new development/services/project management team. The premined companion coins and ipo qrk payments can be held by foundation in transparent wallets and used to pay off developers as they complete work.

First we need a leader. I say VIC or DI. If neither of those want to step up or think they are stepping on MAX's toes. Then MAX needs to just give them the Okay or get back here and take charge. Every ship needs a captain really, even though this should be a full community effort and if run correctly would certainly be one.

Let's just get on with something though. I mean let's thrash out the manner we implement the companion coin and go for it. There is nothing to lose, 400 coins and rising, 10 new shitcoins daily most are scams.