Quote from: kingscrown on July 09, 2014, 05:05:21 AM

i can get coin listed on bittrex for around 2BTC - i mean, thats their price not mine

First of all 1200$ just to add us to an exchange seems like a bit too much, I could set up our own exchange for that much.

Quote from: lopalcar on July 09, 2014, 05:13:35 AM

Quote from: kingscrown on July 09, 2014, 05:05:21 AM

i can get coin listed on bittrex for around 2BTC - i mean, thats their price not mine

Wouldn't be better wait till a release where tor service is enabled automatically for send throw delegate and be trully anonymous without doing any more for average user? maybe is better have some of the features working fine before hitting exchanges? I don't want a quick pump amd dump which damages the coin credibility and lose many users...
Anyways this is only my opinion, be on bittrexx also have beneffits...but should look into dark side too

The problem with integrating Tor into NUD is that if that specific version of Tor is found to be vulnerable the whole network is compromised, we'd be adding a huge attack vector to an already large bundle. The best approach would be to have two independent binaries with the user able to select which version of NUD with which version of Tor he'd like to download, the version of Tor could be chosen randomly from the last 10-20 builds by default as to diversify our stakes (an advanced user would be able to override this and choose a specific version), Tor would be automatically set up and launched/killed in future NUD versions. I don't believe that our "friends" have left Tor without weaknesses.

The approach of "add all the features then add NUD to an exchange" basically demands everything for nothing, we have no IPO, no pre-mine, I have less NUD than most people in this thread and unlikely to break even at this point. I will get busy charming investors in the nearest months and hopefully get the much needed funding for further development, perhaps even on a donation basis. It makes a lot more sense to invest 5k USD into development and buy NUD with 5k USD than buy NUD with 10k USD and sit on worthless NUD.

Quote from: kalisto on July 08, 2014, 11:56:18 PM

Quote from: daxiake on July 08, 2014, 11:36:28 PM

Actually，you donot know what i said. you only recieve nuds for miner,and never send nuds to another people,is it right?? every time you send ,you will get one or more strange new address,i sent 10 nuds to dev,the blockchain appear i sent 100 nuds,90 to an strange new address,10 nuds to dev.i sent 50 to dev at the second time,this new strange help me send 50 to dev,and 40 to a new new address...all this two new strange address is not listed on my wallet recieved book!!!

For what i understand these are your change addresses (used by coin control). When the block explorer recognizes RTR0 on a proper way these addresses can be linked to your main address (if i understand correctly). Maybe te DEV can tell us more?

Bitcoin already creates change addresses by default, this isn't anonymity, the blockchain anonymity occurs when you send by delegate, a delegate then creates a new address and negotiates a transaction with your client, after your client sends the payment the payment is relayed to the destination by the delegate, effectively disrupting blockchain analysis.

Making all clients delegates by default would be a bad idea, becoming a delegate has certain dangers like if the delegate exits explicitly before the transaction to the destination is broadcast, when it runs again it will send the transaction to the destination after the client has retrieved its NUD from the apparently rogue delegate. The client could effectively double its NUD if the delegate is treated carelessly, a high traffic delegate could become very profitable but would also need proper care.