Quote from: SebastianJu on July 11, 2014, 10:46:03 AM

Maybe youre right IPO Magic. Weex didnt transfer coins from or to bitfunder since bitfunder never handled coins really but weex transferred coins from one owner to another. Though not storing the real infos of the persons to protect against money laundering is only a thing he would have to pay a fine for. I dont see that this is enough to lose the bankruptcy protection. The contracts between the parttaking parties were real even without license.

Its a bit strange that everyone happily jumps into unregistered ventures but when it goes wrong he claims it was illegal from the start. While everyone knew it before. Judging from that practically no bitcoin business would be legal.

Im not defending ukyo. I only do what i think has the biggest chance for me to get my coins back. I know many people cant think clear anymore when it comes to that point. Im not like that. So go ahead and think what you want of me. Its only a business decision based on the things i know. I wont sue if i dont see a chance that it will have a nice result. I prefer to wait if he can sort things out. Of course if he would vanish and nothing moves anymore i would sue him instantly. Since then it wouldnt look like he works on things anymore and all would most probably be lost. I would sue him just for justice then.

So see it as admiration but i see that you put emotions into business decision. Something thats very much wrong and most users that are longer in bitcoin community had to learn the hard way. Im one of them.

Phildo... The CEO of a company can invest coins into his own company, even to pay back debts. But that doesnt make him liable to do so. Only if he promised to do something then it could be a contract. But the contract cant be filled anymore because the shares were stolen.

You only say i should sue because for some reason you believe he has the missing coins. I dont know how to judge this. Is this the hope of a desperate that prefer to believe in a good vision of reality? Wheres your hint that he still has the coins? And even when he really would be a scammer... dont you think he could be smart enough to have the coins hidden long ago? Maybe even so that it looks like stolen and no one can prove otherwise?
So i think your delusional. Please believe what you want but i dont act on such a thin hope. The hope on the other side is bigger since i saw he works on things.

But like i said... i never understood the guys that didnt sue pirateat40 when it was clear that it was a scam. I thought its plain stupid. And i sue the labcoin scammer because its clear its a scam. And i would sue ukyo when its clear its a scam. But its not clear. It looks to me the other way. So again... act on the believe that everything is how you wish it to be but i dont think thats an unemotional decision.

A fair argument will never be achieved when you claim to know more than others, Seb.

Are you saying that Ukyo has asked you, and a few others to keep quiet about his plans?