Quote from: ledskof on April 03, 2011, 06:49:00 AM

Quote from: sortedmush on April 02, 2011, 10:44:36 AM

Quote from: ledskof on April 02, 2011, 09:58:06 AM

Quote from: sortedmush on April 01, 2011, 09:11:35 PM

Can't wait until Ron Paul is president of the US!

When people start seeing Ron Paul break his promises, they'll have no choice but to think for themselves Cheesy

What promises has he broken so far? You do realize how long he has been making promises, how long he has been acting upon those promises, and how long he has been in government right?

He may not have broken any promises yet. I just think he will. And if he does, I think it'll be better for society than if he keeps his promises. Because faith in the idea that we can pick other people to do all our thinking for us will start to erode.

It looks like someone else is doing your thinking for you and injecting this opinion into your head. Your are summing everyone who supports Ron Paul as people who aren't thinking about anything and just worshiping him or something. I don't understand where you have come up with this. You are on the wrong track, see, you're talking about how people feel about presidential candidates like Obama was that were plastered all over the TV. People who supported Ron Paul did so because the things he was doing and saying were what they actually wanted and when Ron Paul says something it's not like a salesman trying to screw you over to get into office. He has history of how he has acted in government. There's no sheep quality inherit to agreeing with him and supporting him unless you are truly doing it without thinking and I don't know *ANYONE* that falls into that category who supports Ron Paul but I do know dozens of people who supported McCaine and Obama who fit that category. If you analyze his work (you know, thinking for yourself instead of defaulting to "he is going to break his promises even though he hasn't thus far" lol), you'll see he's a useful politician to back.

Quote from: The Script on April 03, 2011, 01:20:09 AM

The problem with electing Ron Paul for President is not so much that he will break his promises, but rather that he won't be able to fulfill them. There's a difference. Even if he manages to get elected he will likely have a hostile congress to contend with and will find it very difficult to accomplish anything. Presidents don't have as much power to change the system as we like to think.

Yeah that is a an important point but wouldn't it be nice to have someone who was already on the side of the individual citizen though instead of there for big business interests?

Oh absolutely. Don't take my post as a criticism of Ron Paul. I have a ton of respect for the man. I'm always telling my friends to vote for him in 2012 if they love America. I lean towards anarcho-capitalism (and thus shouldn't vote) but if Ron Paul runs in 2012 I will vote for him.