Quote from: sortedmush on April 03, 2011, 10:52:28 AM

Quote from: ledskof on April 03, 2011, 06:49:00 AM

It looks like someone else is doing your thinking for you and injecting this opinion into your head. Your are summing everyone who supports Ron Paul as people who aren't thinking about anything and just worshiping him or something. I don't understand where you have come up with this. You are on the wrong track, see, you're talking about how people feel about presidential candidates like Obama was that were plastered all over the TV. People who supported Ron Paul did so because the things he was doing and saying were what they actually wanted and when Ron Paul says something it's not like a salesman trying to screw you over to get into office. He has history of how he has acted in government. There's no sheep quality inherit to agreeing with him and supporting him unless you are truly doing it without thinking and I don't know *ANYONE* that falls into that category who supports Ron Paul but I do know dozens of people who supported McCaine and Obama who fit that category. If you analyze his work (you know, thinking for yourself instead of defaulting to "he is going to break his promises even though he hasn't thus far" lol), you'll see he's a useful politician to back.

Good point. I'd also say that he definitely seems to be the most honest and trustworthy polititican I've ever seen or heard of. I do like the guy, I think he's nice, I like what he says. I agree with you that Ron Paul supporters are absolutely nothing like Obama supporters. I wish I'd actually said this:

Quote from: The Script on April 03, 2011, 01:20:09 AM

The problem with electing Ron Paul for President is not so much that he will break his promises, but rather that he won't be able to fulfill them. There's a difference. Even if he manages to get elected he will likely have a hostile congress to contend with and will find it very difficult to accomplish anything. Presidents don't have as much power to change the system as we like to think.

I do however think that when this ^ happens, we'll be better off in the long run. Because Ron Paul believes in the constitution, and Either the Constitution authorizes such a government as now exists, or it was powerless to stop it. Either way, it is unfit to exist.

I heard a question posed to him with that Spooner quote. Basically, he agreed. I think any libertarian would look at anarchy as a Utopian ideal. Government is the negation of liberty. Just because it's small, doesn't mean you're not still sacrificing something.