Quote from: msarro on July 14, 2014, 01:16:12 PM

Quote from: cacahouette on July 12, 2014, 11:23:37 PM

Quote from: demme on July 12, 2014, 10:58:20 PM

So what you guys are saying that this "company" is now un-safe because they did not produce papers/documents than b4 when they had nothing to prove but their word? well good luck then Cheesy

well i think the following statements are not equivalent

1) they do not want to produce documents
2) they have not produced documents
3) they have not produced documents but claim they are willing to do it at some point
4) they have not produced documents, claim they are willing to produce them at some point but eventually changed their mind about it.

so each one can cause various degrees of (un)certainty regarding the trust they should receive. I thought they were in category 3 but seem to have switched to 4, correct ? Even 1 i think is better than 4

That's correct. They've been pushing back producing documents for months now (if you swim through this whole thread you'll see what I mean). They've never missed payments, and they've always had some reason for not having the documents on hand. This was the first time they've outright said "yeah, we lied about that." It's a pretty significant change. The writing was on the wall already, but this is the first time they've outright admitted that they won't be producing them. There's a small rebellion going on now among their customers.

A bunch of folks have been working with the Panama business registration office and believe they may have ID'd the business and it's registrants.

In the official Facebook group they found the once stated address to be a casino. Some documents from the past have been checked and now they try to contact the "companies" representatives stated on these documents.