Quote from: maok on July 13, 2014, 03:43:51 PM

Quote from: reRaise on July 13, 2014, 03:08:57 PM

Quote from: maok on July 13, 2014, 02:47:01 PM

Quote from: coinerer on July 13, 2014, 01:49:13 PM

I don't understand people here. Only talking about premine, new coin which would replace Quark, cloning Quark, PoS. Nonsense by nonsense (if sense if caring about Quark).

I saw on reddit people are trying to do something useful or applicable. It seems this topic is preparing people for pump and dump on quark. Probably last big pump.

Wrong politics!

I will not support any of upper activities.

I hope enthusiasm from reddit will win!

Yes the trend with the core community is going against any major change to protocol, we don't need pump and dump actions by doing merge mining and involve other coins. This will divide quarkers even further. We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol not change it radical. These are being worked at this moment by Quark dev team.

Unfortunately there isn't much transparency going on during this process so many rumors spread within the community, thats why we are working on bringing quakers together in a new platform that will unite us and allow to see more public actions from everyone involved with Quark. All the past 10 pages mentions of new coin, companion coin, merge mining, have done alot of harm and confusion and it will stop once we have more transparency. Things are being worked on now and in 1-2 weeks time we'll know where we're heading.

I am giving hope to the true quarkers out there to not look at the price right now as its already down, but look at the prospect of Quark:

We are using the safest crypto protocol from the POW family, protected by automatic checkpoints not by hashrate. Sure, network power is important but quark security doesn't rely on it. Bitcoin and other coins can't say this, they are prone to attacks from industrial miners and have no protection against double spending attacks, except to go back into blockchain and commit a fork.
Quark has one of the fastest transaction confirmation time
Quark has $0 fees required to transmit transactions, unlike many other coins from top of the market
The above 2 points places us in the market for micro transactions and merchant adoption, if we stay united and survive in this rough times we will be here for a long ride because no other coin can claim the above, especially the security part. We do not need another coin to achieve security, our protocol already has the best security of all coins using automatic checkpoints. What we need is a transparent activity of Quark core community and an active participation of quarkers in discussions, we are working to release the platform for that soon.

Are you saying quarks network security is fine as it is? Read this comment from may " Right now [27 of May 2014] the main problem for Quark is completely hoppible situation in mining. Pool coinmine.pl generate from 60% to 70% of blocks and we have roughly 500 i7-class CPUs hashing ATM. So, we could experience a 51% attack virtually at any moment. And even assuming pool operator completely honest its very easy for someone to DDOS the location of major hashrate and attack Quark with no more than half a thousand CPUs. Its a small botnet or a not very large corporate network -- e.g. Microsoft has 1200 000 server nodes, Google -- 800 000. The reason for such a pathetic situation is generally the initial coin distribution model, which generate very few Quarks, not enough to feed profit-seeking commercial miners. Just an other side of one of the greatest advantage of Quark."

Also you talked about "We need multisig implementation, social wallet, and work on improving the protocol" I know about the social wallet, but other promising features and improving the protocol i believe we need funds to pay devs to do it.

Exactly, Quark network is not susceptible to such attacks, we could have 1 PC mining and if the attack occurs we revert back to the last checkpoint and so on. We need hashrate power but its not relevant at this point, what we need more is community involvement not spreading FUD and creation of merge coins etc. We need protocol to improve and we are creating a structure in which we welcome core supporters of Quark to become foundation members with a small yearly involvement from which the dev team will take a large portion, while the rest will go for Quark related projects.

Very well said Maok, such a positive point of view, right now I am at the same page as you...less distraction more focused on building the community is key..this may take long time to achieve but at least we can step towards to a right direction. And open for discussion is always good.