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1. Jon claims that the coin is there, but "unavailable." The court would explicate the meaning of that mysterious word, letting you find out WHY and FOR HOW LONG. Absolutely no reason for any form of bankruptcy.

So? And you cant imagine reasons why a court could say that it doesnt matter since the coins are unavailable and getting them back is speculative?...

I can't imagine the court being satisfied with Jon's "SRY U Gise, I can't tell you because reasons! I can haz bankruptcy?" Bankruptcy protection is not get-out-of-jail-free card. If you have embezzled money, you can't simply "Lol, UNAVAILABLE" and file for bankruptcy--bankruptcy protection is not offered to criminals. Don't know why this needs to be repeated.

No, im sure he would tell the court what happened. If he didnt it would look like he stole them.

So not explaining what's going on will look like theft to the court. But... not to you.

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2. If the coin is gone, what difference does it make if the entity known as WeEx files for bankruptcy?

I dont know the details but in case weex gets sued... and driven to bankruptcy... would you buy the company to be able to get the chance to get the coins back? You would buy all debts with weex too and you dont even know for sure you get the original coins back. So would you buy the company to be able to get the coins back? If not... lets assume someone would have to pay the coins back to weex... if there is no weex anymore then the debt dies too.
Im not saying this way.

Wat.
No, i would not buy WeEx under any circumstances. No, suing WeEx will not extinguish WeEx debt. WeEx being a scam makes Jon personally responsible for WeEx debt. Again, bankruptcy protection is not extended to criminals.

I dont speak about your dream of weex being a scam in reality. You cant proof this. And as long as its this way its your own illusion.
Lets say ukyo wont be personally responsible and he would be protected by company bankruptcy. And then? You think anyone cares about your "but... but... it has to be a scam..." then anymore.

I can not prove that black is not white. I say it isn't, you say it is and ...there we are, impasse. Much like now.
Luckily, US criminal courts do not require proof "beyond the shadow of a doubt," merely "beyond reasonable doubt." Civil cases don't even need to go that far. I have no doubt about Jon's intent, and his Australian registration won't get more than a chuckle from the court--just like Kenneth Slaughter's Belize-registered Active Mining. Though like you, Active Mining legal experts (Active Mining thread was suddenly full of them) insisted shit was bulletproof.

To sum up, without my "dreams," I would be pretty much where you are now: Substantially poorer, a clueless rube unwilling to accept he's been conned yet again. Assuming, once again, you're not fronting.