Quote from: foggyb on March 08, 2012, 11:01:54 PM

Quote from: Otoh on March 08, 2012, 10:48:18 PM

Quote from: Red Emerald on March 08, 2012, 10:22:19 PM

Quote from: triplehelix on March 08, 2012, 02:12:28 AM

its a false sense of security (last i checked which was a few years ago). per capita, the UK has just slight HIGHER rates of murder.

The US has always been higher. The most recent numbers have 4.8 (US) to 1.23 (UK) per 100,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

triplehelix - ur tripping dood, everyone knows US>UK for that since forever & nearly 4 times > WTG gunslingers on ur "just slight HIGHER rates of murder" lol

edit: guessing that the UK murder rates may have increased in the last few years, don't think that it was so PolPot before that though compared to the US, 3.9% difference doesn't make this possible & before it was maybe more on your end, like 5% or 6% more

If the point of this debate is that more gun laws = less crime, then you lose, Otoh. Mexico has much stricter gun laws than the USA, and rates of homicide are 300% higher in Mexico. Mexico did not allow any right to bear arms until 1917. Still severely restricted today. See here: https://davekopel.org/Espanol/Mexican-Gun-Laws.htm

nope, that was not my point, it was solely to point out the inaccuracy in that guy's post stating that there was a higher murder rate ever in the UK than in the States, ever - except maybe in the medieval ages or something 1,000 BC

the possible reasons for it I don't wish to go there, it's the Internets FFS, same reason I don't argue creationism/science here, what do you expect