Quote from: J4bberwock on July 21, 2014, 07:47:17 PM

Quote from: ZiG on July 21, 2014, 04:06:54 AM

Quote from: Freeman2000yes on July 21, 2014, 03:55:14 AM

Again i asked myself why we have to re-invent this f-----g Blades? For the introduce Price of 3000 $ , they have to offer more! Ok , not for Overclocking , but even if you have some high temps outside , you would get some problems or burned parts under normal conditions. This is more like : "Ok , let us glue some parts together , an look what happens." This mining devices normaly have to checked more than any other casual electronics, because they are designed to run 24/24. And what is about any responsability from manufactor? Nothing! I don´t want to say that Grideed has bad hardware , other firms are surely not really better.But don´t bother , we are all the part of this community , and if YOU are able to sell some parts without any responsabilty and warranty and at high priceses , why not? As long as the "customers" are willing to spend high pre-order prices and they accept , that there is no guarantee, again : Why not? This is what we read everytime : No refunds, restricted warranty , all sales are final.-........
And I contribute to this system too. I received my "overclocked" Blade just 4 weeks ago ( delayed over 5 Weeks), and pay for them 899$ , because i thought : Oh what a beautifull pice of ingeneer!
And now for the same piece of ingeneer you get only 300$ , if you´re lucky, and for mining we have discuss this enough. So Who is the bad guy in this race?Aren´t we , the customers, who encourage those firms , to do things like that? Ok maybe they selling a few hardware to those "big fishes" or "minig farms people" , but they are rare , the "big" part , are every one of us.Only if we supply them, they can continue like this.... And just if they mine by themselves, but they only mine "Srypt" like anyone of us and what happens if their mined coins don´t sell anlyonger?
Sorry, about this , but i only want to encourage you people to fight for your right, because YOU count.... only if those small people with this small antminer U1 or U2 or S1 or GBLADES , goes offline, how do you think this counts? Just an example,In the sum it´s a real big part. But this is the trick of the big players, let them thought they are small...and they are really small!So don´t belive what they say, that you reach you ROI in a copuple of weeks, if one of them offer you a real big deal , catch this, otherwise don´t bother with.
I still belive in cryptocurrencies , because there is a way out of the controlling of banc systems,but only if we realize decentralized mining we have the benefits, otherwhise is like any other system , thay allready exist.

I know, to much philosophy for a thread like this, i´m sorry , i hope you guys don´t mind Embarrassed

+1.01 ...

I am completely with you, buddy...

Do you want to start building OUR own miners... Huh

I am computer electronics engineer...30+ years experience... Wink

J4bberwock, nst6563, happydaze ....are you in... Huh

I am ready...!

Cheers,

ZiG

I'm already seriously looking at this and contacted almost all the chip manufacturer. Got no answer from all but one that will.probably ship hardware in a month or so.
The few ones that are selling chips like innosilicon are selling them way too high. Just have a look at the price Zeus are offering the chips, it's 30% cheaper to buy finished hardware from them. With chips price under 10$/MH, we could offer a better product than the ones they are selling for the same price or cheaper.
For bitcoin mining hardware, Avalon gen 3 seems to be feasible. There is a way to manufacture someth with a fair $/GH ratio, around 1$/ GH. I'm collecting my BOM price at the moment.

I'd be very interested in what you find out J4! Let me know what you find out....
Maybe I'll jump back in on the hardware side of the game...if/when....
Did you ever hit - what was it? - 18MHs?....or magic black smoke.... Grin