Quote from: fluffypony on July 20, 2014, 10:52:33 AM

Quote from: Anotheranonlol on July 20, 2014, 06:35:25 AM

I don't like the forced meme approach either. Even altcoin observer should be renamed monero observer judging by the amount of discussion towards other innovative developments relative to monero circlejerking.. Granted it's not the same pump n dump long con by a team of marketers we've seen before; Fundamentally the coin (protocol, really) is strong, a diamond in a sea of shit, and this time we have cabal (perhaps soon to be monero foundation) of intelligent old heads.. 'bitcointalk allstars', silver stackers, TA tea leaf readers you know the kind of people that have latin in their signature giving it the thumbs up, creating 5 or 6 seperate threads,) boosting trade volume, pulling strings here n there. along with usual brown-nosers following the crowd because it pays to ultimately. I personally am invested for a while, but I've seen time and time again a dangerous insinuation that monero is the one and only and it reflects badly on the speaker,

Speaking as one of the Monero core team members, I can assure you that there will NEVER be a Monero Foundation. If anyone starts something like that we will reject it, and will encourage the community to reject it.

We are rapidly moving towards a point where every effort - including features, peripheral projects, lobbying, and so on - will be completely community driven and community funded. We will have no control over this process, other than to influence a particular goal by means of weighing in rationally on debates. Any shilling we try do for a particular idea or goal will quickly be called out. We will not have "our" way - the development and future of Monero will be as decentralised as the cryptocurrency itself.

I like your response and well natured-intentions. I mean there is already a loose club of large holders that could shape the market somewhat, I'm sure a few interact often online and have met in person in their castles or whatnot. but this is phenomena is unstoppable. Wish you luck on success of the project and hope you can squash some of the shitcoins out of the world.

Quote from: drawingthesun on July 22, 2014, 04:23:32 AM

Quote from: bitwho on July 21, 2014, 10:31:21 PM

gotta say. i am kind of proud i initiated this top.

even thought it started as a satire to my complain of too many topics, it proved exactly my point. Hoping to get as much exposure as you can any ways necessary except the proper way. sound pretty weak.keep licking the honey pot prematurely. good luck with that though.

I started this because for once an actually useful altcoin comes along and now all the regular altcoin people are whining and whinging about the popularity it's recieving.

For all these years I thought the altcoin community were trying to find something that could truly have reason to exist alongside Bitcoin, hence all the altcoins and experimentation going on here.

Now Monero comes and is one of the best coins to come out of the altcoin section and proves that all these experiments are worth it, even if only a couple of coins ever emerge with actual utility.

But instead of saying "Oh yeah, see altcoins can be awesome!" you are all getting defensive.

Seems I was wrong, this section was never about making great coins, it was always about the pump and dump.

Monero isn't a pump and dump and this sets us apart from all the scamcoins here. Now I understand why all the scamcoiners are getting defensive.

So sad.

I'm sure you alluded to the fact Boolberry is the litecoin to moneros bitcoin, ie a copy paste with a few marketing gimmicks added on-top, ignoring the fact monero is a copy paste of bytecoin (which is essentially the tenebrix) - that's the kind of thing I regularly see from XMR proponents.

Quote from: drawingthesun on June 27, 2014, 06:39:55 AM

I have great faith in Monero. If another Cryptonote coin takes over it'll be a realization of Half Finney's fears. Because the clone coins are not innovative enough to warrent a take over. My stand is simple; If Monero loses because of the marketing hype of Boolberry, I will get out of all CryptoNote and back into Bitcoin as it would be proof a CryptoNote coin cannot be a store of value. I will not have my wealth held hostage to the pump and dump of the alt coin world. I only invested in Monero because I saw it as being a true second coin to Bitcoin. Apart from Monero I have never dealt with alts. Even though I invested before rpeitila ever mentioned Monero I completely agree with his rational for investing.

Boolberry's slight modifications do not warrant destruction of a market leader. This is the same argument the Litecoin supporters came up with. The litecoin supporters said that Litecoin deserves to overtake Bitcoin because of the 4 times speed gain.

I mean marketing hype...really? Monero is the one with hype while BBR is the solid underdog- what do we have now 3 seperate monero economics threads?. If I'm not wrong both of these coins were borne from the same womb, at the same starting line, I think perhaps even boolberry was announced before monero. Boolberry took some initial steps to make modifications (dare i say improvements) and it's been consistently ignored in favor of monero largely thanks to a less ridiculous name and lacking a series of all star backers incessantly parroting about how it's the only worthwhile coin out there. Fundamentally BBR doesn't warrant a lower market cap especially with the emission curve the way it is. Much less doesn't warrant being derided as a junk copy paste in comparison. I think many people have forgotten about certain xmr red flags like the 'optimization fix'. I was shocked such a thing was overlooked, but got over it relatively quickly when i realised no one else in the market cared/noticed/remembered. Not saying BBR is perfect by any means, because for sure there has been a big disparity between miners there which is only beginning to start levelling out now.

I'm glad to see any cryptonote coin succeed, despite being in an alpha stage and needing a ton of work. Wish monero will overtake the useless litecoin and all these faux-anonymity shitcoins, would wish the same even if I wasn't invested but the 'monero is the one and only' elitist circlejerk attitude becomes tedious real quick.

I'm a relatively large XMR holder, partly simply because I understand you can't ignore the market, regardless I don't want to click on the altcoin observer thread and see yet another dicussion between the same inviduals cheerleading and comparing optimal XMR buy-in strategys or drawing squiggly lines on candlesticks and talking about support levels day in day out. I want to see talk about hyperledger and codius, about ethereum and counterparty and so on.. It becomes so much like a forced meme or a marketing newsletter to see the same back and forth daily, often amongs the same individuals about 1 specific alt, on a thread which is presumably supposed to cater towards interesting and worthwile new developments across the whole altcoin sphere