Quote from: sabre on July 26, 2014, 09:42:14 PM

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Quote from: opieum2 on July 26, 2014, 04:12:11 AM

At least we are getting the promised hashrate. If it works and its a proven design that is known to work then whats the problem?

No problem with that. But see the other thread...

Generally could care less what goes on there. ck is just miffed so many folks use cgminer and he gets near nada from it.. Now if it is a reminder to trolls that if they want post to remain, the users thread is where they belong, fine. Gee, Bitmain, Spondoolies, BlackArrow, TechnoBit, etc all moderate/delete posts. Their thread, their rules. So what?

Ja, BitMine.ch seemed to have no idea of the pitfalls in birthing a complex power design. JoshCo definitely had no idea and relied massively on what BitMine gave to them. Wildly over promised on many levels? Damn right. Horribly executed. Double damn right.

BFL - after their 40nm chip release, dumbfounded there. To me the technicals needed to safely push the Monarch chip should have been obvious. And should have been addressed in later revs after working ones on the comparatively low original spec hash rate were sent out.

In all cases regardless of chip/miner mfgr the price paid then vs now for GHS is the massive foaming at the mouth gorilla that certainly has to be dealt with somehow. Getting rigs with at least as-ordered hash rate is #1 right now. Only a start, but still a 1st step.

Right in that sense at least better than BFL who has yet to deliver $4,000+ 600Ghs machines. And they have NO plans to compensate. AMT as disorganized as they are have at least made some effort to offer something. Whether that happens is another matter. But its important that they first deliver what was originally ordered. Hashrate at least.

Wrong,
I had 5 orders with bfl that I had also upgraded to monarch's. Guess what, they had stated if 6 months go by for the original order I can ask for a refund. 6 months went by I requested it, received a response the next day and done !

Amt , no response ... don't compare these jokers with bfl.

Fair point. I too got a refund from BFL as well. But I had to approach the FTC to kindly "coax" them into compliance. That got near instant response. The FTC will reach out, they just wont bare teeth right off until it gets insane.