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I'm just looking at this thread and bitmain site. And what i can see, quality went down the drain.i mean, quality in regards of delivery on time, process of any refunds, simple information to community.

Now it seems bitmain asking for btc in advance which is basically preorder.
With s1 there was no issues related to delivery of miners. Now im reading people waiting to get their s3 mining week or more!
I was hesitating to order B1,B2,B3 and it seems i didnt lost a lot. as all batches was delayed and now batch 4 and 5 is simple proeorder with no warranty that will be delivered in time frame given.

I dont know whats the issue is but even labeling boxes as miner means issues for end user.
I am fan of bitmain but at this stage whats the point of ordering when their are not in stock?

Price is nice but again waiting time for B5 will kill any profit if any. We looking at least 14 days to receive any miner. What if customs will delay the process? Whats safe quantity to order? I was thinking to order 10. Any ideas how this will look for customs?

no miner is for sale at a better price and faster delivery.

have they slipped from the s-1 yeah just a bit. down the drain no.

down the drain would be what knc did from the early jupiter last nov to this years neptune.

Based on all that i can see and read. these s-3's are better then the s-2's but not quite as good as the s-1's.

By that I mean all aspects of the miner. I order 4 so far I have 2 hashing 2 on the way. when they come I will order 2 more.

after those 2 come I will assess my next move. right now the mining game is very tough.

Maybe i was to harhs to say down the drain. But i compering s1 to s3 situation. And thought maybe they will do same what they done with s1.
I bought abut 20+ s1 with sushi and bitmain and never had any issues.

I still think mining is something which will make few BTC before is not profitable anymore but for small people like me is getting more difficult and will not be easier.
10 units will make roughly 3 BTC a month.

yeah I am in your boat. always less then 5-8k worth of gear. not tiny maybe a little bigger then small.

but these days to be middle sized means 20th. I can't provide 20th in terms of the power needed.

that would be 42-44 s-3s that comes to about 15 k-watts. I can do 4k to 6k in the winter. I can do 2k in the summer.

right now I am running
14 gridseed blades in my home around 1250 watts.
2 s-3's in my friends office.
1 dragon miner in china
32mh in the zencloud
a few icefury usb sticks in bitsolo.net-----------hey you never know

2 more s-3's in batch 4 when these com to my home i will be close to 1950 watts and that is about all I can do in house.

Wait what kind of house you got? I got 3 ZeusMiner Hurricane X3 and 14 ZeusMiner Blizzards and 6 gridseed mini's -75setup in two separate rooms. Each room has its own circuit. Total 70-75 Mh/s...about 2200 watts. As long as you stay below 1600 watts per circuit you will be right...But does anybody know the max power that can come out of a house in the USA?

I want to throw in 4 Antminer S3's into the mix...

My electric bill is about $100 extra a month with all the stuff.

$100 extra for 2200watts? You are a lucky guy man.

The max power that can come out of a house in the USA will rely on you checking your breaker box to see what type of amps are in what rooms Grin

it will show you what the circuit is running

example is Living Room with a 20A breaker on a 115/120 circuit would be 20A x 115v = 2300 max watts in ALL living room outlets.

The problem with houses is if the circuits are split individually or spread around the house. example, your living room may have split outlets with the hallway and even a bathroom

Thanks bro, I think I was using way more power with all the gpu's I had running last year....I think I was running about 1500 watts in one room with no issues last year....

I am done with Scrypt Asics, unless they come out with some good cheap 28-20 nm stuff one day...will ride the sha 256 asics train for a bit. I think bitmain is the best to do this with...It's still cheaper to buy a S3 than to buy cloud hash...

Plus bitcoin and litecoin diffs have been going kinda sideways lately, so ROI is very possible...