Quote from: bbxx on July 28, 2014, 11:46:38 AM

beastlymac so you want from him
photo with him and his id and bitcoin address to perform refund of 1 btc?
wtf?
you want to sell his id data?
why you need this?
signing message from address he paid is not enough for you?

you want to compare his photo and id with what? to make refund.

explain this.

This was recommended by KWH in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8049273#msg8049273
I didn't really think that something like that was required but KWH makes a good point saying that it is the best way to confirm that the account has not been compromised.

Quote from: KWH on July 27, 2014, 01:14:11 PM

Quote from: Beastlymac on July 27, 2014, 01:12:00 PM

Quote from: KWH on July 27, 2014, 01:10:39 PM

curiousminer, it is not unreasonable to request that you verify your identity. Do so, get your refund and move on. Simple.

I agree. My point is to not give away someone's hard earned money to a scammer/hacker.

With so many ID scammers lately, I would also insist on ID verification. It is not unreasonable.

Quote from: bbxx on July 28, 2014, 11:46:38 AM

also explain why you are performing such erreus way group buy.

i made some group buys.

allways i have excel sheet with
name nick payment status payment address shimpment address dates and customer status
i read all pms and modifing sheet.

in such way no one is scammed.

curiousminer send you 3.1 btc with descritpion
you should put

5.02 curiousminer, his addres, 3.1 btc, reseved/paid

then at 10.02 he send you pm to refund

you should change his status to refund request
and send him info that he can transfer his order to anyone else becouse goods are ordered.

he send you next pm at 17.02 to ask what about his refund
you answered that you need his address signed

This is actually similar to the way i set my private documentation out. Except that the fact that his order had already been submitted to the manufacturer and for that reason could not be process for refund.

How many btc have you handled in group buys?

Quote from: bbxx on July 28, 2014, 11:46:38 AM

then you have asked to send email to you

you havent answered this email till now.

Quote from: bbxx on July 28, 2014, 11:46:38 AM

how would he imagine that goods are waiting for him at your place (hint another your lie) if you were asking what he has ordered?

You seem to love calling everything a lie but don't have anything to backup your claims. Would you like me to take a picture of all his miners sitting on the ground in boxes with a piece of paper beside them stating the date and by forum username? To show that his order is ready for shipping.

Quote from: bbxx on July 28, 2014, 11:46:38 AM

why your list was private and he could not see his status? becouse he havent send you shipping address?
wtf. he send you message that he dont want miners so his shipping address doesnt matter.

The list is private because it includes confidential information of other buyers. I am not the type of person that gives out private information about customers to the public.
His order was not included publicly as stated before the reason for this was because his postage details where incomplete. The public list only includes details for complete and ready to ship orders.

Quote from: bbxx on July 28, 2014, 11:46:38 AM

please quote my response and answer my questions.

Also in regards to your claims that curiousminer's order was not submitted to the manufacturer during the period of ordering and then asking for a refund.

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Edit: to start with it seems that I have got the date when the order was submitted wrong. It was the 7th not the 8th. The order total was for the wave that curious miner was included in of 120 units.

Tx id's are:

https://blockchain.info/tx/f8ec7b5ea8a2c18555ce14c43be78aae3d668e7fbfc13dedabbb77765a7e3445
https://blockchain.info/tx/6487e1af0343b2d6fb1a3f12cfa5d7cb9b3542533742c977a64e70f2cedb9705
https://blockchain.info/tx/e4a2bfb768c7a4b3546e7f851f66d243f30869e97689dbcc4542c904c134df9b

Confirmed ordered by The manufacturer at 7th Feb 2014 3:43pm

Regards, Beastlymac