Quote from: Senator51 on July 28, 2014, 09:58:28 PM

A few words about our brainstorming. The situation is such that we do not have serious ability to fund development and even keep alive our web pages, there is lack of ideas how to give the TIPs a second life, there are only a few of TIPs holders/belivers still active around the coin. This means that we got to the point where only something really new can attract attention and .... that is the best point for new beginning :-)

In my previous post I sugested some form of investing, supporting the dev to start and lead any new project/idea. IMO, devs can't spend their money and time to make coin holders happy (and rich). Also, its not so easy as hiring a new dev team couse even we will pay them and they finish their job - what will be next, how about system/service maintenance and development. On the other hand, I am affraid no one donate serious amount of money without a chance to participate in the potential profits. So, I still think any form of investment is the best way to effective and honest cooperation between dev (tech team) and community.

About ideas - in brief:
1. Let's stop think about the coin value, start to think how to use TIPs to do business.
2. Let's look at what people are doing on a daily basis and how the TIPs can help them (can be involved)

What is your opinion about that approach ?

Totally agree with all you said! And I believe there is still a lot of room for ideas and innovation, cryptocurrency is still a speculation medium and real world applications are still waiting to be created! Also for our situation: from crisis comes innovation and rediscovery, we could make something big happen Cheesy

yah maybe going down the route of calling it an investment instead of donation is really the best way because I agree that probably not much will be donated, and making it an investment will create more incentive for cooperation and pressure and support behind the projects instead of just hoping that our next team will do things right this time. let's be realistic, not all TIPS holders will be donating, so to make it fair, those who donate should get some privileges when things go right. so eventually we could go in a similar direction to what NXT and BitShares communities are doing, and the new coins with IPO. something like creating a "founders" list which includes an ID and the donation amount of each founder and maybe a TIPS address of choice. Then when we build new commercial projects, we create assets (maybe via NXT) and a percentage of the assets is directly distributed to the founders depending on their amount of donation, the rest of the assets are used as a payment method to the devs, and can be offered on the market for new investors in order to fund the project. When the project succeeds, a given percentage of the returns will be distributed to the asset holders.

My concrete proposals:
1. Let's find out how many TIPS believers are still there! Is somebody willing to take a public relations (PR) position and PM the members of TIPS especially those who were contributing a lot in the past times? (I could do that too but will need to find some time for it, maybe on the weekend, but if somebody would like to do that it would be great)
2. let's talk about this issue of funding and investment vs. donation and if we choose investment, is it possible, how are we going to do it in details?
3. I will make another post to list the new edits I made on our gdrive: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByUR6Uf-4r_2aF9Tb0xmQ2VaekE&authuser=0
4. can somebody tell me how to embed a link on those posts? Grin