Quote from: nemisan on July 29, 2014, 08:35:38 AM

STOP BUYING PRE ORDERS PEOPEL

you sir are likely correct

but just to be difficult and show the wishy/washyness of where to hop??? on all this? Huh

(or at least buy only pre-orders for the newbie "hungry' ones)

as an example GAWminers for NOW anyway .takes DIRECT cc orders (no paypal) and offers full refunds up to 14 days before shipping AT THE MOMENT

then again KNC etc all start out OK customer service wise..but give them a FARM and it all goes to pot

but yeah some pre-orders like above AT THE PRESENT TIME may have enough protections...but imho

likely at this late date as miners....we all likely should just punt

www.coinbase.com and just buy coin...I mean with elec use vs price/return in btc or alts for the equip

price for alts/bitcoin better go up proportionally to mining difficulty or we are all screwed anyway

Searing