Quote from: dga on August 02, 2014, 02:04:33 AM

I think it's worth differentiating "unfair" from "the @*ing dev cheated". I'm not entirely sure why I feel so strongly about this, but I do -- I think it's because it destroys any trust I'd have in the developers, and when you're dealing with *money*, it's important to have a dev team you can trust -- otherwise, what else did they hide in the code that you haven't had a chance to find yet?

I'm pretty convinced that neither the XMR or Boolberry devs cheated in this way. I'm also pretty convinced that the Bytecoin devs did: that code was so de-optimized it was a joke, and I think that all of us who touched it concur. But it's not the XMR team's fault that they inherited something sneaky in the code and acted to root it out. And the BBR initial implementation was pretty well optimized -- the things that otila and wolf did on top of it take work and are beyond what "the average developer skilled in the art" (but not interesting in to-the-metal optimization) should be expected to do.

Brilliant post mate. One of the better posts in this entire thread and there haven't been many despite the number of pages. I have reason to believe thankful_for_today mined most of the coins in the first week. Unless he comes here and chooses to post otherwise. That's all I have to say about that. But 100% true that tacotime and smooth had no unfair advantage via miner optimizations. Keep in mind, optimized test miners were available in #monero via Noodle if you were around. But like the name says, they were "test" versions eventually pushed to github for everyone's benefit like a true honest project should be.

Christian not sharing his miner intentionally in BBR was worse than Bytecoin "minergate" or claymore fees. That just plain blows and it is not crypto. Christian, has been a disservice to BBR, but this is no reason to vilify BBR with a broad brush, unless it is used to paint XMR at the same time.

Quote from: Polycoin on August 01, 2014, 09:34:29 PM

Im going to dump all the boolberry I got(150,000)

Place a sell order on Poloniex.