Quote from: teodor87 on August 02, 2014, 11:55:09 AM

Quote from: Wy9o2Y3s on August 02, 2014, 10:10:36 AM

Quote from: teodor87 on August 02, 2014, 07:22:26 AM

Which african country is the author from?

We are not from Africa, we're from Ukraine.

Quote from: teodor87 on August 02, 2014, 07:22:26 AM

Just ask yourselves - "Who with their right mind would pay 8% fee for WU/MG instead of 1% paypal fee?" Not only. Paypal has a "gift" option that cannot be reversed. If you use escrow it's the most convenient way.

Paypal is not common here and it can be reversed no matter what, even long time after the payment was made. Western Union/MoneyGram allow you to have cash directly. If you want to have cash with Paypal it is certainly not going to cost you only 1%.

Quote from: Evilish on August 02, 2014, 09:54:14 AM

Why have you stated that high MG fee? I've received amounts up to $2k+ with MG and the fee the sender had to pay has always been around $20.

These are the MoneyGram and Western Union fees in our country, a few years ago the fees were extremely low but they've changed suddenly. Although, I have checked the fees to send from other countries and we do not have the most expensive ones. I agree though that they charge abusive fees.

Paypal has a "gift" option, which cannot be reversed. Even if made by credit card. Which means you never used paypal to send money.
Its used to send money to your friends/family. Otherwise everyone would intentionally send money to their family and reverse it after money are withdrawn.
Thats why they ask you for a reason for payment.
I dont believe that after you get the coins you will go through all the trouble an pay all the fees to send money to anyone. Why would you want to?

People who are newbies anx immediately start to "buy" or "sell" stuff but "you send first" and claim to are more than one (speaking in plural for themselves - "we") are definitely scammers.

Tell you what. If you're so honest and trusting why don't you send someone 5k$ WU and then he'll send you your coins?

Ill tell you why - even if you had coins (which you dont) you wouldn't trust us.

How would you prove:

1.That you're not from Africa;
2.That you have money;
3.That even if 1 and 2 are facts you will actually pay for the coins?

In order to avoid he above people thought of escrow.

But wait you don't want "time wasters", its "urgent deal", you want "serious traders", "but they have to send first".

Doesnt work.

It sounds like you haven't used paypal much.

No matter if you send as a gift paypal can still be reversed. If you don't think so why don't you sell your coins for paypal gift and see for yourself.