Quote from: Biodom on August 03, 2014, 12:37:39 AM

Quote from: s1gs3gv on August 02, 2014, 11:43:34 PM

Quote from: Dans on August 02, 2014, 03:24:56 AM

They created the best miner on the planet,

There is nothing about the SP30 that makes it 'the best miner on the planet'. Who are you kidding ? The best miner on the planet is the one that produces the best ROI, not the one with the nicest case or heat sinks.

I am so glad I passed on that Farmer's SP30 deal back in April.

i don't know why you keep pressing your case so hard, dude.
it is what it is, we are all (or most) adults here, we deal with the current situation.
was it a bit overmarketed-perhaps, yes, but i don't blame anyone for trying and not achieving the exact number, especially if an adequate compensation is promised.
It is not the first or the last miner, it is a flow...stay with the flow.

Well, I'm not sure what case you think I'm pressing so hard here. Perhaps it is this:

I had some very early exchanges with Guy regarding pre-order nature of the SP30 and the absence of a refund policy. Guy repeatedly and forcefully asserted that no refund policy was necessary because there was nothing that could go wrong and they would deliver on time and to spec.

And they didn't. And they didn't in a way that seriously affects customers expectations of ROI, which were marginal to begin with. And their compensation plan doesn't seem to address the costs associated with increased power usage as well as decreased hashing rate, and it seems like it is deferred until October in any case. A compensation plan based on a decrease in performance from 5.4 TH when Guy advertised 6 - 6.5TH is disingenuous. A compensation plan that doesn't consider customer losses due to decreased power efficiency is disingenuous. And statements that assert that substandard performance at 110 volts is not a problem because customers can always host in a datacenter instead of running their machines in a home or office environment are disingenuous.

And finally, the pricing on the Sept. SP30 is not competitive with the alternative, which is S3 delivered in a week or so.

So, I'm not sure which case I am pressing so hard here take your pick.

ST need to directly and openly acknowledge these issues and address them fairly and promptly if they want to regain the trust of this community.