Quote from: Precog on August 05, 2014, 03:38:59 AM

Several important updates I'd like to add -

Their forum stats page is not censored and there have been 51 topics and 514 posts created since the archival of the entire forum on July 29.

Only 13 of those topics still exist or 25% , and only 247 posts still exist or 48% of the communications during that short period. 52% or more of customer communications were deleted.

Mubasher edited Fiaz's Farewell post saying that he is no longer there and that he doesn't know what he's going to do with the forum.

Fiaz's last words were that they weren't planning on getting rid of the forum and he was hopeful that someone would take his place.

We've had gridseeds, kncs, gaws, zeus's, zoomhashs for the past 3 months that are now outdated, and to this date we have not a single photograph of any piece of hardware for these vipers.

Every action taken by the company in retrospect is a red flag over and over.

I'd also like to add that the last BitPay message from Mubasher that my mediary and I received stated that my Paypal payment is instantly refundable and can occur in 2 minutes, and even though I did not ask for a Paypal refund in my BitPay support thread. Neither refund for either payment has been sent as of 30 some hours ago, and as I mentioned earlier he forcibly changed the status of my paypal order to a full deposit refund without me consenting and leaving the BitPay still on processing. No communication since.

On the forum and the personal reply to the journalist at coindesk.com said that their paypal funds were being held, and that they were in delicate communictions with Paypal.

So if i understand this correctly..you paid with bitcoin...contacted bitpay....this guy mubasher says he paid the amount back you paid in btc to usd back thru Paypal..
likely knowing that it would 'hang' in limbo there because they (alpha) is having problems with paypal...thus no $$$ will actually get sent (likely so they can file quick
for bankruptcy protection)....got to admit it is brilliant...if these guys could make money as good as they keep/hide money they'd be the toast of the asci mnfg universe!

anyway my take on the above

Searing