Quote from: PerritoPeron on August 11, 2014, 04:52:45 PM

Quote from: niteglider on August 11, 2014, 06:56:01 AM

Quote from: PerritoPeron on August 11, 2014, 03:10:14 AM

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on August 11, 2014, 01:33:49 AM

With the exception of CryptoNote no other anon coin offers even a remote chance at real anonymity. Nothing but gimmicks.

I'm pretty stunned at how many people are paying big money for CrapCoins for gimmicks like DARK, BitcoinDark, etc...

Cryptonote started with bytecoin. We already know bytecoin released fake names as its key devs, along with probably fake bios. The release of that first cn coin has huge questions around it, including whether its early blockchain is even real. Some of the promotional material of that first cryptonote coin was done in a way that copied exactly the presentation style of government projects. Not one early buyer or miner has stepped forward.

I don't know anything about cryptography but I'd be cautious.

So is your problem that you bought high and are afraid that you will never get your BTC back out of ANC?

Better sell now, before your prediction comes true and you lose even more.

How much ANC do you have and what do you want for them?

vlad was not defending anc. He was spamming about cn. Look at his other posts at the same time.

The problem, with anc, is that it attracted a lot of people by claiming to take a decisive stand on a hot button issue, then backed away when it seemed more important to try to be more popular.

Anc dropped its edgy logo in order to try to appeal to more people. Does anyone question that? It's like a politician that keeps reinventing his position based on polls.

Compared to most people I probably do not have much anc or any other currency including fiat, I'm near the bottom of the economic ladder. I think it may go up in price when the markets start to move again, but I think it is important to at least criticize anc devs if they are going to whore out every time they notice something that might improve their adoption rate.

Your comment "what do you want for them" is sly. If anc is going to shift with the wind in order to gain popularity then I do not wish well for the coin, even though I own some. If anc devs again decide to start stepping up and stop worrying about mainstream adoption then I will wish it well.

Quote from: niteglider on August 11, 2014, 06:54:01 AM

I prefer the mask, didn't understand why it was changed, but never worried about it because the point was to create
a functionally anonymous currency, and I think the ANC devs are way ahead of the game.

Already we are going with I2P, and after adding zerocoin, ANC will market itself.

While I don't agree with the guy who seems to think that marketing is everything, I do think that the mask helps with
a certain crowd who is likely to want to use ANC a *lot*.

The "mask crowd" were most of anc's early supporters.

Quote from: n00n on August 11, 2014, 09:24:37 AM

PerritoPeron
i like your engagement, although i dont get what you think should be done (not what shoulnt be done). maybe you could sum it up?

i think the dev teams reason to change from the Anonymous logo is that anoncoin is not affiliated with Anonymous, it isnt "their" coin. anoncoin can be used by Anonymous, or your grandmother. with this attitude its misleading to use Anonymous logo.

Anonymous is not an entity nor a group. It is a symbol. If a person or group supports that symbol they are only saying "I follow my own values, not any group". If a person or group avoids that symbol to try to attract money from a wider market they are saying something different.

Anc now is one of many coins that reinvents its image to gain more people. It stands for ambition, nothing else.

As for the zerocoin silliness, people who stand for nothing will fall for anything. I'm glad meeh is not hypnotized by zerocoin but I scratch my head over the numerous people who irrationally think it is some long term solution to anything.

that wasnt much of a summary, im still curious - what do you think should be done?