Quote from: best-miner.com on August 12, 2014, 01:17:30 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on August 11, 2014, 02:03:23 PM

okay simple math I buy 5 s-3's cost = 3.3 btc or 1930 usd I buy 2 evga 1300 psu cost = 340 usd

I am at 2270 usd for 5 x 440 = 2200 gh I burn 5 x 340 watts = 1700 watts

So 2270 usd 2200 gh 1700 watts = s-3

or 2399 usd 2000 gh 2000 watts = you

the power difference of 300 watts is about 21 usd a month if your power is 10 cents a k-watt.

So lets make your gear perfect. Lets make you honest. Lets make it ship fast and not broken.

you need to lower the price to compete with bitmaintech.

Your gear should be 1899 to 1999. That makes it priced about the exact same as bitmains s-3 once you figure the power in.

   Ok, first, thanks for your advice, very appreciate on it. here is something i want to express, may not that correct, just share about it.
   A1 chips is very stable during the last half year, minersand users can only use 1 miner to get 2T and don't need 5, if customer ever buy 5 pcs miner to mining, 5*440 may not that correct, there will be hashrate lost during these 5units mining,as it depends on internet and miner a bit, and for international delivery, 5pcs got more risk to broke than 1pcs.
   And our miner is more easy to mining as customer don't need buy power supply again, as it is included, just need connect internet cable and fill in pool address to start mining, it save a bit time and more easy for some new users.
   For S3, sometimes, customer need to wait several days, but we have miners in stock, in mining market, the first month would be the most important for mining income. so, even just 1 week means a lot to end customers.
   And if customer buy 3 pcs, the price is 2299$ include shipping. the price is more close to S3 miner.
   Anyway, S3 is a good miner too, but we have diffrent advantages in it i think

   As miner seller, we eager for price down as it could incease the selling very much, but the price is depend on the chips price about 70%, the other 30% is almost stable like PSU, miner case, delivery fee,... if chips price wont' down, we don't have that much space to down too.

A1 chips is very stable during the last half year = Old technology's and not as efficient. Higher electricity for each day you mines.

and users can only use 1 miner to get 2T and don't need 5 miners = If problem likes broken module you ares completely down instead of havings 4 of 5 miners still up.

5pcs got more risk to broke than 1pcs= If broked during shipping again 4 of 5 work. With you if broked during shipping lose it all.

For S3, sometimes, customer need to wait several days, but we have miners in stock, in mining market, the first month would be the most important for mining income. so, even just 1 week means a lot to end customers. = Bitmain makes batches where mining times started reflected in price. Your overprice will never be recovered.

Anyway, S3 is a good miner too, but we have diffrent advantages in it i think = You think wrongs. Your price is to high, maths make no sense, fake assumptions. You screws me less if I buy 3.

So screw me less for 3 units... or a S3...... i go with S3!

And if customer buy 3 pcs, the price is 2299$ include shipping. the price is more close to S3 miner. = I haves to buy 3 to get screwed lesser. You does not pass savings on buying one unit even though you easily can. You just worried about your profits, not miner.