Quote from: deephouse on August 14, 2014, 09:15:26 AM

ANON EXCHANGE
As far as I know, the problem lies between the agreement between Mscollec and Smoke. No one is 100% sure on it, and we are lacking Mscollec's response. Based on what I can tell, Mscollec only paid Smoke team to code and create the exchange but the ownership of the exchange lies with Smoke team. This is kinda strange, because normally when you employ someone to create a website for you, it is understood/normal practice that, the provider of the funds is the owner.

I believe this is the issue with Smoke not handing over the exchange and needs someone to 'buy off' the exchange from them.

Just thinking:

If i would pay someone to do some work for me.... then one is for sure: It would be MY product - i would be the owner, i allone, AND NOT ANY mysterious "community".

So, its mscollecs product. he paid for it. (with money he got from first dev; which gave voot away, and mscollec saved it and took it over).

So... i really do not understand, how people now think, the exchange would belong "to community". Did anyone of you pay for it ?? Did anyone who now wants the sourcecode pay for it ??

I was dev for 25 years in industry... never saw something like that... thats like stealing... someone else pay, and there come people who claim ownership. and are disappointed, if it is not handed over "for free".

So of course, if community does not anymore want mscollec, fine, but you cannot rob him, thats strange.
its absolutely fair from Smoke-Team, that they only want to handover to those, who paid them !!

And maybe, just maybe, mscollec told them: "okay, if someone else buy for it and wanna run it, give it to them." but that would be pure generous.

So, sorry, all this mscollec-bashing on one side, but wanting for free what HE paid for .... that really sounds little bit stupid ... !

sorry... but its really very very strange, such behaviour. like children "give it to me, give it to me, for freeeeee". pffh.

And one more thing:
Now people wanna make "this or that" with voot. even people think what to do with the coin, and they have nothing to do with dev, marketing or whatever.

Did you all forget what Voot was made for? An anonymous market. That was the original plan (even befor mscollec).

And now people say "oh, its not so important, lets do this and that with voot".

No ! This people are just some traders and speculators, who just have some coin bought beyond 1000sat and want money back. nothing else.
thats okay, thats fine, nothing wrong with that.

but dont pretent that you would care any longer for that coin, as you hold it. and you will sell it in the moment it reaches 1000 or 2000 sat. for sure.

and the last:
Yes, Voot pays every homage on its name. didnt you get that already ?? ;-)

The perfect coin for such an anonym exchange. of course, which else. like a phantom.

but most of you see just "another ordinary coin". thats just a lack of vision and imagination.

thx4listening