Quote from: bumface on August 17, 2014, 02:26:57 PM

people need to stop acusing customers of being greedy. Yes we wanted to earn profit, but do you go to your job for fun or to get payd?

I spread my bets on 2 different companys and now they are both screwing me, that has nothing to do with greed. I orderd products based on what was promised. All this captain hindsight talk is bullshit. I was not greedy when i wanted asic to provide for the UTC community. this was noble, so save me the nonsense

Captain hindsight, maybe that's a moniker that fits. But trying to figure out Alpha's motivations seems more productive than bitching and moaning about the money you lost.

You used the word bet, granted in an expression, but that's really what you were doing: gambling. If one wants to gamble they're much better off, objectively, playing a game like blackjack or betting red/black on roulette as the odds approach 1/2. However many people still play the lottery, the odds are much worse, so why do they play? Greed, the fantasy of hitting the big jackpot makes them forget about everything objective.

It's the same thing with Alpha and these miners. You got on the pre-order, sending your money months in advance to a company who since day one gave much doubt over their legitimacy. You and the others did this knowing that there existed the possibility of never seeing your money again, but hoping that you'd get a miner that'd make more than you'd invested. Now you have the cheek to say it wasn't greed that forced you to gamble all your savings? If you thought this was a good idea at the time, and continue to defend your decision, then if it wasn't for Alpha, you'd have squandered the money away sooner than later - a fool and his money are soon separated.

All this promise talk is bullshit. The only real promises Alpha gave were that they wouldn't refund your money after a certain point, they never addressed what would happen if they didn't deliver or what you'd get in compensation if they delivered late. And many people asked when Fiaz started posting on this thread and he never answered. So save this poor victim talk, blame your greed which made you gloss over what was actually promised.

The cryptocurrency community at this point is almost entirely driven by greed. It is no longer about innovation, providing an alternative to traditional financial instruments or anything else noble. You say you're going to support the UTC community, why? Because you've got UTC and you want the value to increase? That's why people hype scam coins (the majority of the time anyway), not because of community, or the coin's innovations (new logo in most cases is the only innovation) or wider acceptance of cryptos, but because they want the value to increase so they can profit - that is greed.

Instead of automatically coming back to attack me / bitching about how bad your luck is, why not contemplate what I've said, the actions that have led you here, and try to understand how you can prevent something similar from happening in the future.