Quote from: smooth on August 18, 2014, 07:21:35 PM

Quote from: Liquid71 on August 18, 2014, 05:29:38 PM

For anyone willing to spend the time an unbiased cliff notes version of Cryptonote and the CN coins would probably help adoption of Monero and legit CN coins.

I know whatever I say will be perceived as biased, which is understandable, but the reality is, from the OP's work which I find to be completely credible (especially in connection with the other shady to outright deceptive stuff I saw myself on the Bytecoin thread before there even was a Monero), I don't at this point believe there are any other clearly legit CN coins besides Monero.

I said a few pages back that I'm not convinced about the whole Russian-guy/cryptozoidberg/BBR story. There are some connections there, but at the same time some of the pieces there don't entirely fit. I'm also not 100% sure about ducknote, although it smells a little fishy. But the others are all clearly coming out of the same fraudulent coin mill.

If there were some other untainted CN clone coins I would point them out. I just don't know of any.

You don't have to believe me though, read what the OP says (especially the "all tied up in a bow" section) and decide for yourself.

I'm biased as well, of course (I hold some BBR), but the one part that I disagree with the OP on is the boolberry.com mail issue. For better or worse, I trust btc-mike on this one, and I _was_ following along in the forums when he got things set up. Coincidences are possible, and it's possible that the same features that led the army-of-clones to pick Zoho also led btc-mike to suggest it as well.

One could imagine the same kinds of reasons for people to stick to sourceforge, except that it kind of sucks compared to github, so I can't see clear reasons for a new project to favor it. I may be wrong / biased in my repo preferences, though.

My pet theory, unconfirmed by anyone, was that both XMR and BBR sprung out of some kind of internal schism between "people who had early knowledge about cryptonote and/or bytecoin". I use that very generic way of talking about it because I don't have any idea what kind of access they had, whether they knew about CN or BCN, or what the nature of the schism was. I've tried on a bunch of variants of that and can't decide on any that make more sense than others -- for example, TFT retained the de-optimized miner; did he know about it and seek to exploit it, or was he clueless? Zoidberg changed the entire mining algorithm and released a variant that was quite well optimized by release standards -- did he know that the original was deoptimized and was trying to rectify that unfairness, or was he purely exploring his Blockchain-based Proof-of-Work concept? Or both?

Beats me. This is the point where Mulder walks in and says "the truth is out there!" and the aliens start grabbing people...