Quote from: coins101 on August 20, 2014, 08:01:10 AM

Quote from: RenegadeMan on August 20, 2014, 07:46:08 AM

I'm very concerned.

Very valid concerns.

You will have noticed that I have been suggesting a name change, resulting in a compromise, from my part, of putting forward just DRK.

I have also been looking at white label options where the wallet is given a completely different branding. Who cares that there is something called DRK running the network from behind?

DRKTor

Tor is legal

https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq

My view is that its like people growing pot in their rented homes. You don't arrest the property owner, you arrest those that are growing.

Master Nodes not those putting any illegal material on the network. The cops have to hunt and arrest those that do the crime.

That's how the internet works now. Illegal file sharing is illegal, you go after king dot com, not the ISP whose wires get used.

For me, this is the first project that has a crypto backed by something tangible. DRK coins will have intrinsic value because you need them to use the DRKTor infrastructure.

We have always said that Bitcoin is too far ahead to beat. Now that only applies to mainstream merchant outlets.

We can have something approaching Bitcoin value, by creating the value ourselves.

For me, DRKTor is not a criminal infrastructure network, it would be a tool and the answer to being tracked to death by every single internet company.

The governments of the world make and sell weapons. They get used for illegal purposes. They still make more weapons. We should ban this before looking to ban DRKTor before it gets going.

Thanks for responding coins101; I always enjoy your posts.

I know, and you know (and probably most of the people on here know) that an anonymous currency and Internet browsing tool like DarkCoin/DarkTor IS NOT to blame for people doing illegal things and committing crime any more than say a road is the cause of a fleeing bank robber. Crime will likely always exist and criminals will continue to find new and novel ways to perform their dastardly deeds.

But, the public takes years to come around to the logic of valid arguments. And in the post 9/11 world of "homeland security" governments are taking liberties that they could never have gotten away with previously. I've had to listen to numerous ignorant people talking about ISPs being responsible for illegal file downloads. That these same people would think you're mad to say the phone company is responsible for the content of criminals' conversations being conveyed across the wires, but they struggle to understand how an ISP is only a conveyance mechanism and can't be responsible for policing content. This is what we'll likely face. Mr and Mrs Joe Public (manipulated and controlled by the guv, big business and the media) will not be able to differentiate between a network that guarantees privacy (for a thousand valid democracy-based reasons) and people using it to perform criminal acts. And our protestations on this will just be lost in a sea of damnation if DRK is found to have been the conduit for communications/funds transfer for terrorists who've committed some major attack.

It's one thing to hold a purest view on how this "should" play out (and how we "should" be treated) it' another thing to prepare for the likely reality. I'm just saying we need to risk profile this as I think it's potentially a show-stopper somewhere down the track.