Quote from: oda.krell on August 22, 2014, 09:00:08 AM

Quote from: Anotheranonlol on August 22, 2014, 12:00:47 AM

Quote from: Brilliantrocket on August 21, 2014, 10:27:30 PM

Have you tried downloading the client? Everything is clunky and slow. I'm not really big on Cryptonote, but I tried Boolberry, just to see if the problem was endemic to Cryptonote, and it isn't. Boolberry was basically one click, fast and everything worked. Using Monero gave me the perception that it was put together by incompetents. These people are holding up a pile of shit and claiming that it's gold. The community is literally full of megalomaniac delusionals. At least put some effort into usability!

Absolutely agreed. I posted about this previously:

Quote from: Anotheranonlol on August 19, 2014, 10:27:44 PM

I've just attempted to install XMR wallet on OSX. visited the (awfully formatted) page at http://monero.cc/getting-started/ to extract the OSX setup in a tar.bz2 archive

I'm left with some cryptic error in the command line about boost librarys

Meanwhile the BBR wallet was a simple one click to setup

Right now, BBR just works- one click setup. It syncs faster than XMR. The interface is not in wireframe or mockup stage, it's out now and perfectly intuitive It improves upon the anonymity of CN

It has inbuilt capability to reduce the size of the blockchain by 30-70% BBR features aliases, so you can send money to your friend tony by typing @tony and clicking send , just like twitter messages. Meanwhile with XMR you are forced to copy and paste long sequences of numbers. BBR has completely open source GPU miners, that don't hold you to ransom by stealing hashpower or forcing a donation to the dev like with XMR.

BBR has got a much more attractive emission curve that actually had a bit of foresight. XMR was cloned verbatim without much thought it seems. greedy miners will love it though.. BBR has more sensible block times. with BBR there is more chance for ecosystem to mature to a level where a larger pool of participants can gain rewards, XMR will be 50% mined in a year, which has been a death sentence for other coins. BBR will require less daily BTC inflow to maintain the current price, the list goes on.

Monero is praised as the 'only contender in the risk for global liquidity market' or some shit, claimed as the next litecoin, pumped all day long by rpietila and his band of merry men. Jumping on the trollbox is a harrowing experience because you get accosted by guys who ask if they can just take 2 minutes of your time to tell you about monero almost instantly. We're seeing 1000x price increase predictions for XMR. Not going to happen of course but it sounds good, and that's what matter- gives a target and a bit of hope. Who would want to miss out on 1000x gains? no-one so join the train! Meanwhile BBR is ranking barely above CleanWaterCoin, below applecoin, guldencoin, zccoin etc and constantly hemorrhaging. What a Sorry state of affairs. I know which one I see more upwards potential in

XMR proponents and shills will come here and spout the same story 'we are not taking part in a race' we're doing things slowly and gradually. Tortoise and the hare style. They make these insinuations BBR has rushed and that'll cost them the race that they are already losing for completely different reasons

If you haven't actually used the two, go and use them both side by side. BBR just works well, now. Perfectly decent user experience. I know I come across here like a massive BBR shill but it just boggles my mind to see the disparity in valuation. BBR is almost 5% of the price of XMR. you can literally nearly by 20BBR for every 1 XMR. The fundamentals are not in place to support that fuckery.

See, now that's a well written criticism. Worlds apart from OP's faggotry that included no arguments whatsoever.

Anyone care to comment on it and write a rebuttal? Fluffypony, maybe?

(disclosure: Monero owner writing)

I believe both fluffypony and smooth have responded to those exact criticisms every single day for the last 2-3 months.

Here's one response:

Quote from: fluffypony on August 19, 2014, 10:44:16 PM

Quote from: Anotheranonlol on August 19, 2014, 10:27:44 PM

I've just attempted to install XMR wallet on OSX. visited the (awfully formatted) page at http://monero.cc/getting-started/ to extract the OSX setup in a tar.bz2 archive

I'm left with some cryptic error in the command line about boost librarys

Meanwhile the BBR wallet was a simple one click to setup

I'm shellshocked people are paying 17x more per XMR than each BBR in this state. Hope XMR team can correct these shortcomings.

Boost is merely statically compiled in to the Boolberry GUI (clearly a necessary step with any accessible UI). We specifically chose not to do that for the 0.8.8 release. If you are struggling with the high barrier to entry feel free to PM me and I'll walk you through installing Boost, ok?

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It has inbuilt capability to reduce the size of the blockchain by 30-70%

By cutting out dust from block rewards. Monero can have this as well. They chose to spend their time on building a proper database instead. I think I saw CZ get all giddy when he tried to make the point that a hard fork would likely be required to do exactly what he did. TBH, I've heard claims of 30-70% reduction with just a database being a possibility .. so why this is being repeated and hailed as a pinnacle achievement (trimming dust) I don't really care to know. Nobody knows the exact percentage:

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-Transaction identification by prefix allows Boolberry to cut ring signatures from block chain reducing block chain size by 60-90%
-This provides over a 55% reduction in block chain size. These features are found in no other CryptoNote based cryptocurrency.

..so I'm gonna ask you .. could it be that we're really just dealing with a guy that wanted to take a hacked shortcut by ruining your anonymity set and not deal with putting the work into creating a real database in the first place? What you should be asking is why he didn't put it in a real database!

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BBR features aliases, so you can send money to your friend tony by typing @tony and clicking send , just like twitter messages. Meanwhile with XMR you are forced to copy and paste long sequences of numbers.

Ten years, tony will have to pay an address licensing fee. His social security number will be replaced by his blockchain alias and it will be just wonderful. Not really .. these aliases are kinda pointless. Any benefit provided by protocol enforced aliases can just as easily be given by a third party that would use the alias in the first place. Also .. what if someone nabbed your view key or got access to your wallet? Imagine having to pay another aliasing fee? Could be lots of money. Why go through the hassle?

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BBR has completely open source GPU miners, that don't hold you to ransom by stealing hashpower or forcing a donation to the dev like with XMR.

..which were affordable because nobody fucking wants the coin.

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BBR has more sensible block times.

Oh look! Another time traveler who knows for sure that blocks should yield exactly the amount of value that BBR produces! How convenient!

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XMR proponents and shills will come here and spout the same story 'we are not taking part in a race' we're doing things slowly and gradually. Tortoise and the hare style. They make these insinuations BBR has rushed and that'll cost them the race that they are already losing for completely different reasons

Bullshit! This is a race, and it seems that the only thing with developers running a marathon here is Monero. If they have too much class and style to not say that, then I'm gonna put it right in front of your face: The competition is simply out-classed and totally out of its element here. It will lose its breath.