Quote from: Paya on August 25, 2014, 02:13:32 PM

There's plenty of records everywhere, easy to find even if you don't know anyone in Donbass personally or can't speak Ukrainian or Russian language. Oh, and I am not watching RT. Question is: what medias are you following, please tell us who is this ultimate truth-teller that you trust so much?

Yeah, it must be DNR and LNR forces shelling their cities and killing their own people. Probably makes sense in parallel universe you're living in.

Of course. Moscow has blocked Kiev, Kharkov and Lvov. Moscow is also bombing them. We all know that Ukrainian paramilitary is dropping only flowers onto Donetsk and Luhansk.

"There's plenty of records everywhere" do show me records depicting as you've mentioned "executions of POW by ukrainian oligarch batallions". preferably videos.

"who is this ultimate truth-teller" nobody? logic and common sense are required to filter the immense amounts of bullshit coming at us from all media outlets.

"DNR and LNR forces shelling their cities and killing their own people" there are videos of locals saying they are surprised shelling rounds are coming from direction of rebel forces. there are videos analyzing shelling and geolocating the source to dislocation of rebel forces. i mean evidence that DNR and LNR are doing this is not less significant than evidence against Ukrainian Army. the key difference here is that Ukrainian Army targets rebels, not civilians.

"Moscow has blocked Kiev, Kharkov and Lvov." russian citizens have organized the rebel movement, russian weapons have been repeatedly discovered at places of dislocation of rebel forces, russian government does nothing to ensure border is safe, i mean how can this even happen - whole world is accusing russia that it allows leaking of mercenaries through russia's border and they don't even try to give OSCE access to monitor borders? i'd like to see you sneaking through russian border with ak47 at any other place except east of ukraine.

"Moscow is also bombing them" well there are videos of grads shooting in direction of ukraine from russian territory: http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.de/2014/07/russian-grad-firing-from-russian-soil.html - this stuff is not easy to fake, especially considering russian media has released recording of locals confirming the shooting and excusing it by "it was only in response to shooting from ukrainian side". well of course.