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Quote from: brontosaurus on August 26, 2014, 04:01:05 PM

You really should give this up before you embarrass yourself further. You made a statement designed to demean the ST chip against a competitors without explaining the tech behind the apparent 'better' performance from the latter. That's not what good engineers do, they can only compare two devices by giving them the same operating conditions or by explaining how results come about from testing. Lower power consumption does not equate to higher efficiency, I don't have the motivation to explain it to you, so you'll have to work it out for yourself.

As for W/GH and J/GH, they are NOT the same. I would gladly explain to you if I thought you might be capable of understanding what I said, but you clearly won't. Watts are a measure of power, Joules of energy. They are NOT the same, although again it's amusing that you think you can argue that they are.

Yes, W/gh/s is a rate and J/gh is a quantity but they are always the same number.

Please do explain how a miner can be 1 J/gh while simultaneously being something other than 1 W/gh/s.

Anyways it doesn't even matter because bitfury never used J/gh or claimed lower power consumption, you simply made that part up along with nearly everything else you've said.

Quote from: bitfury on June 19, 2013, 01:23:56 AM

0.596 V, 96 Mhz, 0.725 Amps, 0.43 W, 100 tasks sent, 143 solutions got, COP is 0.986, Ideal 1.12 Gh/s, Real 1.1 Gh/s, 0.39 W / Gh/s

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I have no interest in what you buy of from whom but I'll be damned if I'll sit back and watch amateurs use misinformation to try to put down the technology of good companies that might pose a threat to their interests. I've read quite a lot of your comments about several companies, not much constructive criticism or support in there, is there? Not a lot of criticism of AM either, funnily enough, but I guess you feel you don't have to as they're going to 'crush' the competition, eh? I have the distinct feeling that you're going to regret ever having said that.

I never said AM will crush the competition, I said that that was their goal when you spouted off nonsense about how their goal was to distribute the hashrate.

I've also never tried to put down the technology of a good company. My only problem with spondoolies is the preorders. End of story.

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While I'm writing can I also remind you that you haven't as yet done the ROI comparison between the AM solution and the SP30 I suggested? I'd really love to see it and I'll bet a lot of other would too, so get busy.

Didn't want to make this a debate about AM but if you insist:

SP31

AM tube

S3+

With that said I challenge anyone to show me a scenario where an SP31 is the best option.

Here we go again - you'll never actually answer questions, will you? You just try to throw them back with your usual arrogance. It won't work this time.

So now 'you' challenge anyone to show that the SP31 is the best option. In case you've forgotten I've already challenged you to do a detailed comparison of the AM solution versus the SP30/31 (which, of course you're incapable of doing so because you don't know how), so either provide it or shut up. And don't cheat by 'overclocking' - a device has a specification, overclocking it means going above that specification so there is no guarantee it'll work properly.

Of course, you can always ask the guy that's pulling your strings.

I suggest you really do make a 'debate' about this in a separate thread, this isn't the place for it.