Quote from: lightfoot on August 28, 2014, 10:09:47 PM

Hm.... Honestly I think it depends on why you're mining. When I picked up my Jally order in Jan 2013 it was to get rich or something. By the time I got it, it was a fun toy. A toy which I realized could do things... Like take more chips. And there were people who also wanted more chips and were willing to pay for it.

Picking a Jalepeno for a couple hundred bucks is a completely different game then spending thousands of dollars on BFL's hopes and promises. That aside, that's great that you baked some chips on there and changed some values in the open sourced firmware to support them, however just because that was a successful avenue for the Jalepeno it obviously isn't for the Monarch.

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To my credit I refused work when it would result in a loss for the customer. Why? Because I guess I'm like that.

To your credit indeed. Seems at least you have some morale standing whereas the clowns at BFL are nearly all but void of it.

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Point being though if you think you can sit on your ass and mine and make money you are expecting something for nothing which doesn't happen unless it's luck. If you use your abilities, you can make money but it's from your abilities, not your god-given right to sit on your ass.

I agree, but what do you think 50% of the miners are here for? They're not here to "support the network" or play with HW because it's fun and they like it. They're here to make money, and while you and I may recognize that's much easier said then done, that's not the view understood by a good percentage of the users of this board. You can tell just by reading the thread topics and content.

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Thus a BFL/KNC/Whatever can be a good investment, depends on what you do with it. My offer was to get one as a learning tool; maybe I could make other people's miners run faster/better/whatever and help them make profits while making profits myself.

Maybe, but the firmware isn't open source and BFL wasn't kind enough to leave a bunch of unpopulated BGA pads for you to bake chips onto. That's aside from the fact that you can't even buy BFL's 28nm chip.

Don't get me wrong, I commend your efforts with the Jalepeno, but let's be realistic here.

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We'll see.

That we will.