Quote from: Paya on August 30, 2014, 10:28:26 AM

Quote from: Rassah on August 30, 2014, 06:30:09 AM

By the way, you guys are cheering on the progress of the rebels, and apparently think that this issue can be fully resolved just by rebels pushing off Ukrainian military, taking over cities, and holding their territory at a new border. As if by succeeding in this, they will win and the fight will be over. Don't fool yourselves. There are a lot of people living in those areas, especially cities, who do not support Russia, and do not want to join it.

You're right, no question about it. That's why I am not commenting some rather euphoric posts mentioning march on Kharkov, Odessa... even Kiev. It's not realistic. Even if it was, in strictly military sense, there is no point. Ethnic Ukrainians are generally dissatisfied with their government and situation in their country, but vast majority of them are not for Novorossiya. Put them under too much pressure and they will resist. So, rebels should be focused to take and defend areas where people are actually supporting them. To underestimate their shaken but still very capable opponent would be a huge mistake.

So... why "talke" Mariupol...?

https://twitter.com/_Alek_UA_/status/505018771627855872

Are these people waiting for the rebels ? Doesn't look like this to me.