Quote from: BADecker on August 31, 2014, 02:00:36 AM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on August 30, 2014, 08:13:39 PM

Quote from: bl4kjaguar on August 30, 2014, 07:53:47 PM

And they are now being challenged

You do realise that the discussion going on in this thread has been discussed over and over and over for thousands of years?
No closer to any scrap of evidence or proof than we was 1000 years ago, and no further from any scrap of evidence or proof than we will be 1000 years from now.

This applies to both sides of the argument.

You do realise that don't you?

Wrong!

The machine nature of our universe has been recognized for thousands of years, even though it hasn't been said like this very often. Everyone knows that machines have makers. Cars and televisions don't simply jump into existence by themselves. Everyone has recognized God through the evidence of nature and the universe. Modern science has proven more than ever the machine quality of our universe.

Some people, for whatever stupid reason, decide that they are going to set aside the overwhelming evidence of the machine quality of nature, so that they can make a level field to let the stupidity of what they call evolution theory enter.

What this boils down to is politics. It is political propaganda, just like organized religion is political propaganda to a great extent in some areas. Political propaganda exists for one basic reason. It is a tool used by the few to take control of the many.

My statement still holds true regardless of your ideas and opinions. Here, I'll make it easier to understand:

We are no closer to proving god than 1000 years ago. FACT.
We are no closer to disproving god than 1000 years ago. FACT.
No evidence exists in favor of god, same as 1000 years ago. FACT.
No evidence exists not in favor of god, same as 1000 years ago. FACT.

You just don't get it do you? Religion/God works because it is a faith.

There's not meant to be any evidence/proof. That's the whole point..

C'mon, I'm not even religious but I still "get" how it operates.